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Welding Metallurgy Summer 2015 Session · 9 sections 15 cases · Watch on YouTube ↗ all files
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§1. Why so many steels? [00:02]

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Today I wanted to talk about hardenability — I've mentioned it, but I haven't really discussed why we have this need for it. It goes back to a question a student asked me last year: why do you have so many steels? If you go through a book on steels, you'll find for the carbon steels — carbon, manganese, phosphorus, sulfur, silicon — and then these others: copper and lead can be up there in very small percentages. Copper is there for corrosion resistance, going back to the 1880s. People found that some steels with a little bit of copper had better corrosion resistance in the railroads. So the railroads specified a copper-bearing carbon steel with less than two-tenths of a percent copper, and got double the corrosion resistance in the atmosphere. Lead is sometimes put in steel for machinability — it forms little inclusions. Iron and lead don't mix, so you form these little lead inclusions, and when you're machining, the lead melts and gives you a liquid lubricant. Now we're getting away from lead in what we call free-machining steels.

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For alloy steels you've got different specifications: carbon, manganese, sulfur, silicon, chrome, nickel, moly, tungsten, copper, vanadium, aluminum. So it gets more complex. Why do we have these alloy steels? In one simple sense, because we have lots of different product forms — forging, structural sections like I-beams, hot-rolled carbon steel plates, carbon steel bars. If the steel salesman comes to you, he's got an order book and he can look up the prices for each of these classes. There's a whole page of carbon steel types, and the alloy steels expand on it. You can have line pipe — that's like the Alaskan pipeline; oil-country tubular goods — like the pipe I brought in yesterday that had the defect in it, the one that leaks in 12 from Mexico; special-quality tubular goods. Lots of different steels.

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It has to do with what part of the steel mill it comes out of. Steel mills are huge. Even now, after forty years, whenever I walk through a steel plant I'm still amazed by the magnitude of it. The last steel mill built on a green-field site in this country was built by Bethlehem Steel — world's second-largest steel company at the time — Burns Harbor, Indiana. Now I think it's owned by ArcelorMittal. But that was in 1965. Fifty years ago. Bethlehem Steel paid about five billion dollars in '65, which would be fifteen or twenty billion today. Since then, plenty of new steel mills have been built in the world, because countries will build a steel mill — it's so important for their economy. What was one of the first things the Japanese did after World War II? They built steel mills, because they needed to build ships. That was part of their tradition and their culture — they're surrounded by water. But since Burns Harbor, no company has built a steel mill. Only countries have invested in them, because the investment is so big. The only people who can afford twenty-billion-dollar investments in manufacturing capacity today are Intel and Boeing. A new state-of-the-art semiconductor fab is twenty billion. A new commercial 777 or 787 — twenty billion. It's a bet-your-company business; you'll go bankrupt if you invest in it.

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Anybody know how the 747 came about as a commercial airliner? The Air Force had a competition for the C-5, and Lockheed won with the C-5A. The 747 was Boeing's design for military transport, and they lost. The government had paid for a large part of that development. And Boeing said, we've got to make some money out of this; we've invested too much of our own money plus government money. So they said, let's build a commercial jetliner. And everybody said, the world doesn't need one of those. I remember flying out of Tokyo once — we did a loop around the airport, and I counted forty-seven 747s on the ground. They're distinctive in shape. Forty-seven, just sitting there. And we weren't necessarily the first ones to take off; they take off in waves on the international flights. There could be fifty at Narita Airport. That's a lot of money. The 747 was the savior of Boeing through the 1970s and '80s — big cash cow.

§2. Hardenability and the Jominy test [06:38]

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One of the reasons there are lots of different steels is because of two things: the depth of hardening you want if you're going to heat-treat it, and the cost of the alloying elements to do that. If I take a piece of carbon steel and quench it — remember that little thing I sent around with the file — this is 1021 steel, close to the 1018 I had, so the carbon content is .21 rather than .18. They take a bar like this and put it in a fixture — it's called the Jominy test — they have a shield and they spray a jet of water as hard as they can on one end. Then they cut the steel and measure the hardness with a hardness tester across it. This is the distance from the quenched end, and this is the hardness. In a 1021, you can get maybe Rockwell C 40 or 45, but it drops off. This is in sixteenths of an inch. So within a quarter of an inch you can only harden it about an eighth of an inch deep. Even that little half-inch square bar I sent around — you quench that in water and you won't get full-thickness hardness, because the transformation to martensite is just too rapid.

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But we can throw some alloying elements in there and slow it down considerably. This is what we call the TTT diagram — temperature-time-transformation diagram for 1080 steel, eight-tenths of a percent carbon, on a log scale of time versus temperature. Up here we austenitize to form face-centered cubic, hold it there, then quench it down. The cooling curve comes down through here. This is one minute over here, here we're at one second. For this stuff to transform — this is a diffusionless transformation, athermal, it doesn't depend on a specific temperature, it's a thermodynamic thing. The atoms literally shear and transform the crystal structure, and they do it at close to the speed of sound once you get a little nucleus formed. Morris Cohen spent thirty years of his life looking for the martensite nucleus in a microscope — never found it. About one chance in five million. He had a theoretical model of how the dislocation should form, a pseudo crystal structure of body-centered cubic even though it was face-centered cubic, that dislocations could put the atoms in a favorable orientation. He spent half his career looking for a martensite nucleus, and never found it.

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Student: If you knew how it forms, you could prevent it from forming, or get much more hardness?

No, he was just a scientist, he was interested. Other people win the Nobel Prize for doing something useful — he just did it for pride.

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If I go to a 5140 — 51 is chrome, as I remember — by adding some chrome it slows things down, because chrome diffuses more slowly than just carbon and manganese. If I go to a 1034, a third of a percent carbon, I've got less than a second. If I go to a 9261, I can get ten seconds. I can do a lot more than that depending on the alloy content, but alloys cost money. Nickel: six dollars and fifty cents a pound as of last year.

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Student: When you say you have ten seconds — ten seconds to get all martensite without it transforming to the soft phase?

Martensite forms when you quench. How quickly do you have to quench? If you slow-cool it, it'll just go to BCC, it'll be nice soft steel, just like your bridge steel.

Student: And this is forming body —

Body-centered tetragonal. Trapping that carbon, keeping the carbon from diffusing. You form martensite if you trap it in those sites. Remember the little ping-pong balls inside the basketball? That was hydrogen, but you can think of the same thing with carbon trapped in its interstitial sites. When it transforms it forms body-centered tetragonal, and if you can slow down the carbon diffusion, you can get martensite without cooling so quickly.

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We did make alloy steels for Henry Ford and Alfred Sloan at General Motors in the 1920s and 1930s, but we didn't have big plate applications until after World War II. One of the reasons is, we didn't know we needed good toughness until after all the Liberty ship failures.

Student: Does martensite form in any kind of metal?

In steel, in some titanium, in some copper alloys, but in general 99.9% of the martensite you'll ever be interested in is steel. Other crystal structures don't have this ability. There are other martensites in other things. A martensite is now defined as just an example of a shear transformation of the metal. The atoms slide past each other due to shear stress, internal shear.

§3. The economics of alloy content [13:53]

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If we start talking about nickel at six-fifty a pound — if I put in 1% nickel, that's twenty pounds of nickel for a ton, $130 for 1%. How much nickel is in HY-80? About 3%. You're talking $400. You just doubled the price of steel by putting nickel in there, and you haven't started to account for the chrome or moly or vanadium. Chrome — we actually use ferrochrome, which is cheaper than pure chrome because we already have iron in there. Adding 1% chrome is only $2. Moly, which is in HY-80 or HY-100 at four-tenths of a percent — it's $180 for 1%, so $90 to add the moly. You end up taking a $400 steel and turning it into thousand-dollar steel by adding alloy elements. But now, instead of a sixteenth or an eighth of an inch depth of hardening, I can harden a two-inch or four-inch piece. HY-80 is regularly hardened to four inches thick. Probably not up to six, but four inches is mass.

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Student: What are you making that's even —

I'll give you an example. They were using HY-80 — this is Jerry Milgram, who was a professor in 13, which is now Course 2N. He was designing America's Cup yachts. He called me up — this is twenty years ago — and they had a problem. They designed the keel, not keel, but the — what do you call it, the dorsal fin upside down —

Student: The center board?

The center board, thank you. They were designing the center board. It was six inches thick, HY-80, or it may have been HY-130, I don't remember — it was an HY steel. And when they went on the first sea trials, the center board bent. A lot of force. This was five or six feet long and six inches thick, and had a big lever arm. So he called me. That's when I first realized there were a couple of other faculty who were here at 6:00 a.m. — he called me at 6 a.m. one morning and offered to hire me as a consultant. They were going to go to 4340. 4340 has lots of nickel, chrome, moly, and vanadium. John Lippold in his chapter on hydrogen cracking has the same plots — for a 1046, this is martensite high hardness, over here is bainite plus pearlite when you cool slow. And he's got the same Jominy quench hardenability for 4340. The hardness is nearly 100% martensite full thickness. You extrapolate this out, you can go to eight or ten inches thick. So to your question, if you want to spend enough money and put enough alloy content in, you can harden pretty thick.

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There are some hardenable stainless steels that are 30–40% alloy content. You don't even have to quench them — we call them air-hardening. If you want to make them soft, you have to furnace-cool them over several days, because you just take a big forging of stainless steel out of a furnace and depending on its composition, it just cooling naturally in the air, it ends up quenched but not tempered. So you can alloy things a lot. When I said steel was $400, that's not really plate, where we have higher yield. That's sheet metal for automobiles, or for little Red Flyer wagons your kids pull around — the cheapest steel you can get. Rebar, $400 a ton right now. An alloy steel to make bolts for a commercial application might be $1,000 a ton. HY-80 or HY-100, I'm probably talking $2,000, maybe $2,500 a ton today, might be $3,000. Price has been going up in recent years, but it's not cheap.

§4. Fabrication cost and the Nimitz weight problem [19:52]

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Then add the fact that all your cutting — you're not going to use everything in nice rectangular sheets, you don't get 100% yield in the shipyard. You've got a lot of scrap left over after you cut paper dolls out and weld them together. The actual cost per pound fabricated is about ten times the cost of the material you started with. The Navy did a million-dollar study down at Newport News. They were looking to reduce the weight of aircraft carriers. The Nimitz-class carriers have been around for fifty years. Why don't we have a new hull design? Because it would cost $50 million — this was twenty years ago — to design a new hull before you even build it. Just to design the shape of a new carrier is a $50 million bill. All the towing-tank stuff, the things you guys come back to learn how to do — they want you to do it for fifty cents. You'll have a summer over at Draper where you get to design a ship. It probably won't be a Nimitz replacement, but anyway.

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The Navy made a decision about fifteen years ago. I'm sure they could come up with better hull designs now than they did in 1960 when they came up with the Nimitz class. But they decided they didn't have it in the budget to spend $50 million on just a new design. The problem is, the Nimitz carriers, if you look at the fifty-year history, gain 250 tons a year. I gain a little weight each year, so the carriers do too. And most of it is not down the bottom, it's up top.

Student: Combat systems?

Student: A lot of the combat systems — when they're not in the major RCOH overhauls, like the intermediate ones, if they change out a combat system, they'll install the new one, and they may remove all the components of the old one, but not usually. There's all the extra weight of different little bits and pieces, plus the extra wiring and cabling. They don't want to take it out just in case something doesn't work well. And whenever it gets to its mid-life, they go through and gut it out just to remove all that junk.

If you plot the carriers we've built — about one a year for many years, maybe one every two years now — it's 250 pounds a year on average. That's a lot of weight.

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36 ksi is the garden-variety steel for guardrails on highways, Radio Flyer wagons, you name it. Through the normalization heat treatment I talked about the other day — they were using at General Dynamics Quincy — where they put it in a furnace and slow-cool it rather than quench, you can get a finer grain size, and that gets you up to 50 ksi. There are marine grades called EH-32 or DH-32 — the 32 is kilograms per square millimeter, which is 50 ksi. If you go to the structural welding code for bridges now — or in 1985 — you'd find A36 charts and 50 ksi charts. It's not martensite. If you want martensite, you can get 100 ksi with martensitic plate, or 80 ksi in HY-80. But without going to martensite, you could get 50 ksi. The EH steels and DH steels they were using after World War II — I think the Nautilus was one of the first HY-80 subs, but they were using 50 ksi steel before that.

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The point is, you can go to higher strengths, but it's going to cost you money. They wanted to go to 65 ksi with high-strength low-alloy steel technology, where you cool the steel as it comes off the rolling mill, red hot. You can't quench it in water, but if you spray it — more than a mist, like a garden hose sprayer, uniformly — you can cool it more rapidly. You can keep the grains from growing as big while it's red hot, and you can get 65 ksi. That's high-strength low-alloy steel. You don't have to put as much alloy in there because you're using fine grain size — could be a hundred times finer grain size. This is what I went over to Japan to see if I could learn from the steel companies. Japan and the Navy wanted to invest in this.

§5. Grain size, single crystals, and HSLA-65 [25:30]

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Student: When you say grain, it's like a salt crystal, a collection of —

Similarly facing metal crystals — well, they're not similarly facing, they're random.

Student: What I'm asking is small grain size versus large grain size.

These are clusters of atoms that are all lined up. They're impinging on other grains in the structure. It's the difference between a snow cone and a slurpee. Snow cones have big grains, slurpees — crushed ice — have fine grains. Slurpees stronger, right?

Student: Yes, so basically chopping them while they're small?

If you let it cool on its own, a big heavy plate, you're going to get what we call an ASTM grain size of four — larger numbers are smaller grain sizes, going as the square of the number. If you do accelerated cooling, you can get grain sizes that are ASTM 10. So at ASTM 1 at 100x you can have a grain that's that big; at ASTM 4 you'd have the grain size of a period; at ASTM 10 on a 100x magnification, a grain size of a period at the end of a sentence. Huge differences in grain size.

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The only thing you can do to steel or any metal to get both strength and toughness, which is what we want, is fine grain size. You add alloying elements, you're hurting your toughness, but you're getting greater hardenability. Why do we do it? Because if we quench to martensite, the effective grain size in martensite is so small you can't even see it on an optical micrograph at 100x. You have to go to electron microscope.

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Student: A lot of small companies are working on crystal technologies, where they grow one crystal that is one single grain — the point being it's stronger and has special properties for electronics.

For electronics, and for high temperature in engines.

Student: Is it a stupid question to say, what about trying to create that within the metal? What prevents you from creating a single grain crystal in any arbitrary large size of metal?

We do it. I'll bring in my single-crystal turbine blade if I can remember. We make single-crystal turbine blades if you want creep resistance at high temperature, so it doesn't flow like Silly Putty does at room temperature. If you don't want it changing shape at high temperature, you want a single crystal. Fine grain size at elevated temperatures is the kiss of death. They make single crystals in silicon because grain boundaries destroy the electronic properties. I just bought some outdoor solar-powered lights for my house, and you can see the solar cells have grains that are an inch across. You can see them just looking at it. It's like a piece of galvanized steel bucket — you see the huge grains. Wherever you have a grain boundary, you're losing electrons, and you're not getting the solar efficiency. So you'd love single-crystal silicon for solar cells, but that's too expensive in general.

Student: It's cost-prohibitive to make large-volume single-grain crystal metal?

To make single-crystal metal, we grow it in a furnace at about a millimeter an hour, maybe two. It's slow. But when you're growing a turbine blade for $7,000, and you're growing twenty-four of them at a time — Rolls-Royce grows two at a time, but they have lots of small furnaces, whereas Pratt & Whitney and General Electric use two or three dozen on one sprue. It's like a Christmas tree with turbine blades on the end, you just break them all off.

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So I never did finish the story about HSLA-65. They wanted to go from their 50 ksi — there's a lot of 50 ksi steel on a carrier; you don't need 100 ksi everywhere. We've been using HY-100 on flight decks, which are about four inches thick. That's not classified — the submarine hull is classified, but the flight deck is not. We've been using HY-100 for thirty, forty years, as long as I know — it goes back to the original class of ships, because you need the extra strength for big heavy things on broad spaces on the flight deck. But a lot of the rest of the ship is 50 ksi material. Could they save weight by using HSLA-65? In 1996, NAVSEA gave a million-dollar contract to Newport News to figure out how much money and weight they could save. They found they could save 2,000 tons. That's eight years of carrier weight gain without changing the hull. But it would cost ten dollars a pound. At that time HSLA-65 was selling for $2,000 a ton.

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I could have told them that off the top of my head. I have a rule of thumb that the fabricated cost of a piece of metal — steel, aluminum, titanium — is ten times the cost of buying the material. I gave you that little Defense Department 21st century, that number is in there. I've been using that even before they gave the million-dollar grant. If NAVSEA had given me the million-dollar grant, I could have written them the report the next day and cashed the check. I always liked that report, because I read it and thought, I've been saying this for years, and that's exactly what they found with their big study.

§6. Stout and Doty and the welding procedure look-up [33:00]

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With high hardenability, lots of alloying elements, lots of money, you can get all kinds of hardenability — more than we really need. You can make something twenty inches thick with high hardenability. So we have lots of steels, but with all these steels we have all kinds of problems welding them when they get thicker. When Professor Milgram said, we want to use 4340 — that very high hardenability one I showed you — and asked, can we weld it? I said, if you've got enough money, you can weld almost anything. And they did. I helped them. But you have to preheat it — not to 400 degrees, this oven you can cook pizzas in, this is a 600-degree preheat for 4340. That's not a pleasant thing to work around. You don't necessarily wear blue jelly suits, but you do wear radiation protection when you're standing next to that, and you have fans blowing air through your suit. Not pleasant. Can be done. Needs lots of quality control to make sure they did it right.

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This is out of a book you'll get when we do stainless steels, on weldability of stainless steels, but it's useful here. It looks at the diffusion coefficient in centimeters squared per second in alpha-iron and gamma-iron — body-centered cubic, face-centered cubic. I pulled this out for hydrogen at room temperature, 20 degrees C, or 1100 degrees where we stress-relieve. Hydrogen diffusivity: 10⁻⁵ or 10⁻³, doesn't change much. But look at the diffusivity of carbon — it's actually a fast diffuser, but at room temperature it's 10⁻¹⁷. If you look down here at tungsten, which we don't use, you have 10⁻⁶⁰. Hydrogen diffuses through steel just like water. I ought to bring in a demonstration.

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In gamma-iron, hydrogen is 10⁻¹⁰ rather than 10⁻⁵. Hydrogen diffuses slower in gamma-iron than in alpha, but its solubility is ten times as great. At high temperatures it's got the same diffusivity, but it's slow at lower temperatures. Carbon: 10⁻¹³ versus 10⁻²² or 10⁻¹⁵. Carbon diffuses fast through iron. I can slow it down by putting in things like manganese, which has an affinity for carbon, or chromium, which has an affinity for carbon — so the carbon atoms aren't as free to move. They like to stay near their neighbors; they like chromium atoms.

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That might sound fatuous, but a lot of the computational metallurgy people do today is getting down to the quantum level, and it's not much different than how many nearest neighbors do you have that are chromium or nickel, and how does that influence the vibrational jump frequency of the atom going to the next site. You can start to predict the rate of phase transformations. And that's all this is, a phase transformation.

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If I go to good old Stout and Doty, which came out — the first edition I think was in the 1940s. Bob Stout was the professor at Lehigh, which was the big welding school at the time. In the back of Stout and Doty there are about twenty pages. Starts out with steel number one, which is ASTM A27, steel castings. Steel number two is ASTM A36, structural steel — the garden-variety we make bridges out of. It goes all the way up to steel number 200. A lot of steels. They all have different weldability. When people would call me up over the last twenty-five years and say, Tom, we've got some steel, we need a welding procedure — all I would do is pull Stout and Doty off the shelf, go to the index, find the steel, and depending on the carbon content and the thickness, it tells me minimum preheat and interpass temperature. This is how much you have to heat up the steel so the hydrogen will diffuse out while you're welding it.

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Remember the little video we did, a finite element analysis on the hydrogen in two different thicknesses of steel, quarter-inch and inch, preheated and non-preheated, and how fast the hydrogen diffuses through when you weld on it? You go back and watch that — you'll find this is basically a 1940s table version of what to do. So I'd look up the steel, ask what's the thickness and the chemical composition. There's a firm out here that does a lot of architectural work. They were working on the Charles Street MBTA station, built in 1910. Didn't even have steel specifications back then for some of the steels they were using, but they had to weld to them when rebuilding. For 500 bucks, I would write them a welding procedure if they told me the chemical composition and the thickness. I would go to this book — I even told them this much, but they never wanted to learn how to do it. They wanted to pay me the 500 bucks. It took me five minutes. $500 for five minutes' work. It tells me what preheat should be, if you need a postweld heat treatment, and whether you need to peen it — hammer the surface to relieve residual stresses. Postweld heat treatment would be a stress-relief heat treatment. Lots of different welding procedures, right there in Stout and Doty.

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We'll look next week at one of the welding codes that sort of superseded this, and there are other ways to calculate all that. So now you know why we have lots of different steels and lots of different alloys. When you get into the railroad business or the automotive business, they'll sell their souls to give you a steel that's $20 less per ton, because they're making a million tons of that steel. $20 a ton is worth $20 million. So they'll have a special steel optimized just for that thickness and that hardness, because you're talking millions of dollars for tenths of a percent of alloy content. That's why you've got hundreds of steels. When we get to nickel alloys, you'll find you can put all the nickel alloys on two pages, whereas the steel takes ten pages, and aluminum alloys take three pages. It's just how much of these materials we use and how specialized it is.

§7. The Seawolf and the high-side wire [42:01]

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So let's go back to what happened with the Seawolf. They were welding HY-100 in the Seawolf. It was the first full-scale submarine with HY-100. They'd been welding HY-80 for forty years, successfully for thirty of those forty years. The first ten years were a little hairy. Whenever they switch to a new steel, they have all kinds of problems. They'd built two modules. Submarines are built in modules. Say it's thirty feet in diameter and a module is thirty or forty feet long. They can lift these whole modules — they might weigh five hundred or a thousand tons. They have big trains to move them. Building in modules speeds up production and saves money. They had built modules and put HY-100 modules into HY-80 hulls because they wanted the experience. My first student ever, John Galligan, was working at Electric Boat, and he was assigned the responsibility to build the first HY-100 module hulls — not for the Seawolf, but for the couple of ships that preceded it.

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There's always a range of alloy content. The weld metal is modified to optimize for the weld zone, and you buy the wire from someone like Lincoln Electric, the world's largest manufacturer of welding electrodes and wire. When it's gas-metal arc, it's just a bare wire, and you use argon shielding. NAVSEA had a spec, and it turns out the wire they got was what they called high-side wire. It had higher hardenability because of higher alloy content. It met spec, but everything was on the high side. Chromium on the high side of the range, nickel on the high side, everything on the high side. Which meant that even though it was supposed to be HY-100 weld metal for HY-100 — shooting for 120 or 130 ksi yield, because you want slightly overmatching weld metal rather than undermatching, for fracture reasons — they actually got something more like 130 or 140 ksi. This would have been good for HY-130 steel. And that meant you had to hold your hydrogen to much tighter tolerances. Typically in a shipyard you can get about four parts per million deposited weld metal hydrogen.

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I'll put up this little table, which you will not find in a book — this is a Tom Eagar table, but it's approximately correct. At full restraint, which when you build these eggshell constructions is pretty restrained — that metal is not moving anywhere — if you've got a 70 ksi tensile strength steel, like the 50 ksi submarine steel of the 1950s, you can tolerate 30 parts per million hydrogen. That means you can weld with a cellulosic electrode and not get cracking. At 120 ksi, you could probably tolerate ten parts per million. So they had some leeway with HY-80, which is actually about 100, 105 ksi in the weld metal — they could tolerate a fair amount, and they had learned to get down to four parts per million consistently. That was one of the reasons they were encouraged to go to HY-100.

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Well, it turns out they were really at about 140 — this circle was getting bigger. Remember those three circles? Microstructure, stress, and hydrogen. You want to keep all of these as small as possible. Unfortunately, this martensitic structure is the most susceptible to hydrogen. I'm not sure anyone really knows exactly why martensite's the worst, but we've done plenty of studies — we have the worst type of structure, but it gives us some of the best toughness and some of the highest strengths. When we have higher strength, we have higher stress, because it goes up to the yield stress when you start welding and all the residual stress. What happened to the hydrogen? They actually measured the hydrogen content when I was brought in. I don't remember the exact numbers, and they told us, don't tell anyone — not because it was so classified, but because it was embarrassing they had this problem. As I remember, they had numbers in the range of five to fifteen parts per million in welds they'd taken out as known samples from the Seawolf. You look at this little table — even at HY-180 I can only tolerate two or three. I can't weld that stuff even with my best welding processes in the shipyard. I'm going to be at too high a hydrogen level; I'm going to have to use higher preheats to drive the hydrogen out afterwards.

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They didn't have a lot of data. They brought us in early on. There were six of us — two individuals and four companies. One of the individuals, who had been head of welding at one of the big electrode manufacturers, got bounced early on because he spoke to the press. So there were five of us left. I looked at the data — they had three different wires. The wire diameters are .045, which is standard, sixteenth (.063), and 3/32 (.093). Standard welding electrode sizes. I plotted it, and on a very crude average, I would see higher hydrogen the smaller the wire. So I concluded it was drawing lubricant. Why? If it were inherent hydrogen in the welding process, the same argon in the shipyard no matter what the wire size — what's different about these? The smaller wires have a higher surface-to-volume ratio; it goes as 1/R. So I get more surface per pound of weld metal with a smaller-diameter wire, and I saw higher hydrogen. My report, which was not classified but we weren't supposed to tell the press — and now it's almost twenty-five years later, so who cares — concluded it was drawing lubricant on the wire.

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Drawing lubricant — when you draw the wire, you have to use a grease.

Student: From the school?

In the mill. And then you're supposed to clean it off. Really good wire today — not necessarily back then — they actually skive the wire. They draw the wire with the lubricant, and then for extra cost they put it through another wire-drawing die that machines off the surface. They call it skiving. They clean off the top thousandth or two, to make sure no drawing lubricant got down in little crevices and got rolled into the surface. Lincoln Electric didn't like this theory, for obvious reasons.

§8. Fracture mechanics and what to tell the captains [51:30]

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Another question came up at the second meeting in Crystal City. They had two captains. They said, these two captains want to talk to you, because they'd read the reports. It was a big room, fifty people, and I went over in a corner. One captain was responsible for operating all subs at sea; the other was responsible for maintenance of all the subs. They wanted to know what they had to do about the two ships that had been built with these modules of HY-100 in the hull. Did they have to bring them into port and replace the modules, or derate them — you can't go as deep, can't go as fast — or what? I said, the good news is you don't have to do either, but when they do come in, you have to do more inspection. I told them that because of fracture mechanics. They didn't prep me for this; I did it off the wily.

§8.p2

If I look at the fundamental equation of fracture mechanics — the toughness must be greater than the stress times the square root of pi times the crack length. We knew the crack length of these things, they were all less than an eighth of an inch. I told you about how they were looking for eighth-of-an-inch flaws by magnetic particle inspection — these were like a sixteenth of an inch or less, half that size. You don't have to do either one, because the stress is whatever the stress is. Let's say the stress is half the yield stress. You've got to have a safety factor — let's say they designed for 50 ksi, it's got to be something like that, or you'll run into fatigue problems.

§8.p3

Student: Are you talking about the induced stress of the metal due to joining, or the stress induced by the pressure?

The designer doesn't even know how to weld or that welds exist. What average stress do I have in that structure? This is stress.

Student: What stress?

It's the design stress. This is when the guy first pulls out a sheet of paper. They're getting some consultant under NAVSEA's guidance — okay, we've got 100 ksi material, we're going to design this ship for 50 ksi operating stress as the maximum it should ever see in service. The actual stress it might see may only be 30 ksi, but nowhere in the structure will have more than 50 ksi, because if it does, we'll run into fatigue problems. You need a factor of two safety to avoid fatigue. Commercial, military, doesn't matter, you need a factor of two.

§8.p4

So if I take 50 ksi as my maximum stress, and the toughness of HY-100 should be on the order of — well, you have no reason to know this — about 50 ksi square root of inch. It has unusual units because it has to have the same units on both sides of the equation. I can do this in my head. I did it in my head for them, I didn't have to pull out a calculator. Stress squared is equal to toughness squared over pi C — the critical flaw size comes out to over an inch. There's no way these cracks are going to grow in a couple years before the ship comes back for some maintenance. Not a major overhaul, but routine maintenance. A sixteenth-of-an-inch crack is not going to grow to one-inch size and cause the ship to fail in that period.

§8.p5

They don't have to derate it, but when it comes in, you've got to select 10, 20% of those welds on the hull, and do a very good inspection — better than usual — to make sure you know how big those cracks have gotten. If they're at 3/8 of an inch at that maintenance, you may have to do some repairs. But the odds are, with sixteenth-of-an-inch flaws, you do the extra inspection, and those ships can stay out there until you're ready to scrap them, and you'll never have to do anything. But you don't know for sure. You certainly weren't going to send out their number one ship when you knew it was full of cracks — if anything ever did happen, they would probably fire the entire U.S. Navy at that point. Some heads have got to roll. Not senators in Congress's head — they always except themselves.

§8.p6

That's what happened in Seawolf, and that's where fracture mechanics can tell you what to do. Doing extra inspection is what you need to do.

§9. Aloha Airlines and the fatigue-leader problem [57:09]

§9.p1

To give you a similar example — anybody remember Aloha Airlines? Got to do something for Adrian, the aerospace industry, because other people during the school year could be watching this and they might be in the automotive business. Aloha Airlines, the one with the window —

Student: Crack?

What you're thinking of is the Comet, which was the 1950s. They had square windows on this British-designed aircraft, flying across the Atlantic, and they would just disappear in the Atlantic, because they were getting fatigue cracks from stress concentration in the corner. You will not see square windows in airplanes since then. But this — the top of the aircraft, more than 180 degrees, top half — section just blew off. The only person who died was one stewardess who wasn't belted. Everyone belted in survived. 40,000 feet, the top blows off. I was impressed the whole thing didn't break in two. If you Google Aloha Airlines, there'll be a picture of it sitting on the ground, and over half the top is gone.

§9.p2

This was in the early 1990s. There are more fatigue pressure cycles in airlines in Hawaii than anywhere else on the 737, because no flight is more than forty minutes. The islands are all close to each other. Aloha flew between the islands, and they got 40,000 cycles in like the first 30,000 hours of life. Typically a Boeing aircraft is designed for 100,000 hours of service. You figure out how many fatigue cycles you'll get. They hadn't accounted for someone just island-hopping in Hawaii, so they had accumulated more cycles. Boeing had requirements for inspection after so many hours, increasing inspection requirements after so many hours, but it was for the fleet on average. They were taking averages for the whole world of 737s, not for Hawaii.

§9.p3

[Tom puts the image up on the projector.] See, there it is — everybody standing there on top of the aircraft. They're in the middle of the aircraft. Pretty scary. To think — flying along, and the roof flies off like in a tornado.

Aloha Airlines was the fatigue leader. Around the rivet holes, there was no fracture that Boeing didn't know about. Boeing has some of the top fracture people in the world. The guy who taught me fatigue and fracture was Professor Reggie Pelloux, who got his ScD here, then went to Boeing, and came back as a faculty member and specialized in fatigue and fracture. Boeing has top-notch people, and they pay attention to safety. This was one where they got broadsided. Only one person died, but it was a wake-up call for how to do your averaging of cycles. You have to look at the outlier — Aloha Airlines. The critical flaw sizes for the sheet metal skin are like several feet — they had big cracks. But nobody was looking for them because nobody expected them. They were the outlier leader.

§9.p4

I do similar work for Cape Air. They fly Cessnas, and they put more hours on Cessnas than anybody else. Their head of maintenance, whenever he saw a crack or a problem he had never seen before, would call me up, send me the part, and say, tell us what happened. I'd look at it metallurgically, look at the fatigue, and give my assessment. I'd write a one-page letter, sometimes a page and a half. Over the years I learned that what he would do is send it to Cessna, because Cessna needed to know what was going to happen to all their other aircraft. Cape Air was getting more fatigue cycles than anybody else. They were the market leader in cracks. They would also send a copy to the Federal Aviation Administration, which for that particular type is in Burlington, Massachusetts, right across from Burlington Mall. I never had to get into some sort of fight, and I never got direct feedback from Cessna or the FAA, but I know from other things that happened that they were reading my reports. I was just doing a failure analysis of why it occurred — was it a stress concentration, was it higher stresses than expected. In most cases it was just really old, and things wear out after time. And that's basically what happened at Aloha Airlines.

§9.p5

One day we will finish steels — but a lot of this stuff does apply to things other than steel, and we're almost done with hydrogen. If I hadn't told you a few stories, we could have probably finished hydrogen in steels today. But we'll start to go faster through the other metals, because you are learning some metallurgical principles that apply to more than just steels. It's just easier to tell the story with steels when I'm talking to a bunch of people who make ships out of steel.

Cases referenced

  • Burns Harbor steel mill (Bethlehem Steel, 1965) §1.p3

    Burns Harbor as the last green-field steel mill built in the U.S., framing the magnitude of capital investment required for primary materials production and why only nation-states (not companies) now build them.

  • Boeing 747 origin from C-5A military transport competition §1.p4

    Tom's anecdote about the 747 being Boeing's losing C-5A military transport design, repurposed as a commercial jetliner — used to illustrate the bet-your-company scale of aerospace capital investment. Tokyo Narita anecdote of forty-seven 747s on the ground.

  • Copper-bearing carbon steel for railroad corrosion resistance §1.p1

    1880s discovery that small copper additions (<0.2%) doubled atmospheric corrosion resistance in railroad steels. Used to motivate why "carbon steels" carry more than just carbon.

  • America's Cup yacht center board (Jerry Milgram consulting) §3.p2

    Twenty-years-ago consulting call from MIT Professor Jerry Milgram (Course 13, now 2N): a six-inch-thick HY-80 (or HY-130) center board bent on first sea trials. Tom consulted on the move to 4340 and the 600°F preheat needed to weld it. Used to introduce both the high-end of alloy steel hardenability and the consequences (preheat protocols) for welding.

  • Nimitz-class carrier weight creep / HSLA-65 study (1996) §4.p1

    NAVSEA-funded million-dollar Newport News study finding 2,000-ton weight savings possible by substituting HSLA-65 for 50 ksi steel on Nimitz-class carriers. Tom's punchline: his "10× material cost" rule of thumb predicts the same answer. Also frames the broader Nimitz weight-creep problem (250 tons/year) and the $50M cost of designing a new hull.

  • US Navy HSLA Steel Mill Investment / Japan visit §4.p4

    Tom's trip to Japan to study HSLA accelerated-cooling technology for Navy and Japanese steel companies. Background to the HSLA-65 story.

  • Single-crystal turbine blade manufacturing §5.p3

    Student-driven aside on why we don't grow single-crystal structural metal. Tom explains creep resistance motivation, growth rate (~1-2 mm/hour), $7,000 per blade, Pratt & Whitney / GE Christmas-tree casting trees vs. Rolls-Royce's small-furnace approach.

  • Solar cell grain boundaries (Tom's outdoor lights) §5.p3

    Personal-anecdote pedagogy — Tom's solar-powered outdoor lights have visibly inch-across silicon grains, illustrating the grain-boundary efficiency loss that motivates single-crystal silicon in higher-end cells.

  • Charles Street MBTA station welding procedure (1910 steel) §6.p6

    Architectural welding firm consulting Tom on welding to unspecified 1910-era steel during MBTA station rehab. Tom looks up the procedure in Stout and Doty in five minutes for $500. Used to illustrate the practical value of weldability tables.

  • Liberty ship brittle fractures §2.p6

    Brief reference: "we didn't know we needed good toughness until after all the Liberty ship failures" — frames why plate-application alloy steels developed post-WWII.

  • Seawolf HY-100 hydrogen cracking §7.p1

    The lecture's centerpiece case. Tom's consulting role on the Seawolf HY-100 cracking investigation. Key elements: high-side wire from Lincoln Electric meeting spec but at the upper alloy bound (producing 130-140 ksi weld metal); 5-15 ppm hydrogen vs. the 2-3 ppm tolerable at that strength; Tom's drawing-lubricant hypothesis based on hydrogen scaling with wire surface-to-volume ratio (1/R); the Crystal City meeting with two Navy captains; in-his-head fracture mechanics calculation showing critical flaw size >> existing sub-eighth-inch flaws, leading to "don't derate, do more inspection" recommendation.

  • Aloha Airlines Flight 243 §9.p1

    Parallel case to Seawolf. The early-1990s 737 fuselage roof failure attributed to Aloha being the fatigue-leader in the worldwide 737 fleet — 40,000 cycles in 30,000 hours due to 40-minute interisland flights. Boeing's fleet-average inspection schedule missed the outlier. One fatality (unbelted flight attendant). Used to teach: do more inspection on the fatigue leader, the same lesson as Seawolf.

  • de Havilland Comet (mentioned as contrast) §9.p1

    Brief contrast to Aloha — the 1950s British Comet's square windows caused stress-concentration fatigue cracks leading to mid-Atlantic disappearances. Reason airliners no longer have square windows.

  • Cape Air Cessna fleet consulting (ongoing) §9.p4

    Tom's ongoing forensic consulting relationship with Cape Air's head of maintenance — Cape Air is the Cessna fatigue leader; cracks unfamiliar to Cessna show up there first. Tom's one-page letters get forwarded to Cessna and the Burlington, MA FAA office. Same outlier-leader pattern as Aloha.

  • Reggie Pelloux (MIT fatigue/fracture lineage) §9.p3

    Tom credits Pelloux (ScD MIT, then Boeing, then MIT faculty) as his fatigue-and-fracture teacher. Frames Boeing's fracture-mechanics culture. ## Figures referenced (recurring numeric anchors, not cases)

Layer 2 — cleanup edit
p1 00:02

Why we have videos, right? Okay, so you ready? We on? Okay, so today I wanted to talk a little bit about — we talked about hardness, I've mentioned hardenability, but I haven't really discussed why we have this need to do hardenability. But it goes back to the same question a student asked me last year: why do you have so many steels? Um, and I think Gary put this up on Stellar, but if you just go through a book on steels you'll find, uh, for the carbon steels which we already know about — carbon, manganese, phosphorus, sulfur, silicon — and then these others, copper and lead can be up there in a very small percentage. For corrosion resistance, that's back from the 1880s. People found that some steels that had a little bit of copper in them had better corrosion resistance in the railroads. So the railroads actually specified a carbon — a copper steel, a copper-bearing carbon steel — with less than two-tenths of a percent copper, and double corrosion resistance in basically the atmosphere. And then lead, when required, is sometimes put in steel for machinability. It forms little inclusions. Iron and lead don't mix, and you form these little lead inclusions, and lead of course when you're machining it melts, so now you got liquid lubricant. Now we're getting away from lead as, for what we call free-machining steels.

p2 01:30

Um, and they have, of course, ranges of all these different elements. This is just from a metals book that gives you the specifications. This is — that was for carbon steels. For alloy steels you've got different specifications: carbon, manganese, sulfur, silicon, chrome, nickel, moly, I keep on going down — tungsten, copper, vanadium, aluminum. So it gets more complex. And why do we have these alloy steels? Well, we have them in one simple sense because we have lots of different product forms. Um, forging, uh, structural sections like I-beams, carbon steel plates hot-roll, carbon steel bars — this is actually, if the steel salesman comes to you, he's got an order book, and he can look up the prices for each of these in different classes. This is how they classify the steels. So there's — I mean, there's a, to go back down, there's a whole page there of different types of steels. That's the carbon steel types, and the alloy steels over here just expand on it. You can have a line pipe, that's like the Alaskan pipeline; oil country tubular goods, that's like the, uh, the pipe I brought in yesterday that had the defect in it, that leaks in 12 from Mexico; uh, steel quality, special quality tubular goods. So there's lots of different steels.

p3 03:00

And it has to do with the way — partly what part of the steel mill it comes out of. Steel mills are huge, okay. They're, even now after forty years, whenever I walk through a steel plant I'm still sort of amazed by the magnitude, size of stuff. Um, the last steel mill built green-field site, built in this country, was built by Bethlehem Steel, world's second-largest steel company, uh, it was Burns Harbor, Indiana plant. Now I think it's owned by ArcelorMittal, but that was in 1965. So we're talking fifty years ago. Since then — and it cost Bethlehem Steel paid about five billion dollars in '65, which would be fifteen or twenty billion today. Since then, the only — there have been plenty of new steel mills built in the world, because countries will build a steel mill because it's so important for their economy. What was the first thing, one of the first things the Japanese did after World War II? They built steel mills, because they needed to build ships. That was part of their tradition and their culture, okay, they're surrounded by water. Um, so they started building steel mills. Um, but since Burns Harbor, Indiana, no company has built a steel mill. Only countries have invested in steel mills because the investment is so big. The only people who can afford — and they have a hard time biting the bullet to do it — to make twenty-billion-dollar investments today in manufacturing capacity are Intel and Boeing, okay. And that's what it cost. Well, actually, yeah, those are really the only two. It might be a ten-billion investment for Pratt & Whitney or General Electric to design a new jet engine for an aircraft, but it's not a twenty-billion-dollar investment. A new semiconductor fab state of the art is twenty billion. A new commercial, you know, 777, 787 — twenty billion. It's a bet-your-company business, okay, because you'll go bankrupt if you invest in it.

p4 05:14

What happened with the 747? Anybody know how the 747 came about as a commercial airliner? The Air Force had a competition for the C-5 with Lockheed [Lockheed] won on the C-5A. The 747 was Boeing's design for military transport, and they lost. And they said, well what are we going to do? And in fact the government had paid for a large part of that development, design development of 747. And Boeing — we got to make some money out of this, we've invested too much of our own money plus government money. And so they said, well let's build a jetliner, commercial jetliner. And everybody says world doesn't need one of those. I remember flying out of Tokyo once, and we circled to get — we were going way — we took off, we did a loop around the airport, and I counted forty-seven 747s on the ground, okay. They're so distinctive in shape and stuff. Forty-seven, just sitting there. And we weren't necessarily the first ones to take off, they kind of take off in waves, you know, on the international flights. Who says we were the first ones? There could be fifty at Narita Airport, okay. That's a lot of money. Um, so anyway, and it actually was the savior of Boeing through the 1970s and '80s, 747, big cash out.

p5 06:38

Um, in any case, there's lots of different steels, and one of the reasons there's lots of different steels, without going through all these different types of steels and stuff, is because of two things: the depth of hardening that you want if you're going to heat-treat it, and the cost of getting the alloy elements to do that. Now what do I mean by some of that? What I mean is, if I just took a piece of carbon steel and I quenched it — remember that little thing I sent around with the file, that if I quench that — this is, um, this is, uh, 1021 steel, okay, which is close to — that was 1018, I think, that I had, so the carbon content is .18 rather than .21. But the depth of hardness, this is — they take a bar like this and they put it in a fixture, it's called the Jominy test, and they have a shield here and they spray water on it, a jet of water as hard as they can spray on one end, and then they measure — they cut the steel and they measure the hardness with a hardness tester across there, and this is the distance from the quenched end, and this is the hardness. And you can get in a 1021, you can get maybe Rockwell C 40 or 50, 45, 40, 45, but it drops off. This is in sixteenths of an inch units. So within a quarter of an inch you can only harden that thing — a one-inch bar, you can only harden that thing to an eighth of an inch. Even that little half-inch square bar that I sent around, you quench that in water and you won't get full-thickness hardness, okay, because the transformation is just too rapid to form this martensite.

p6 08:36

But what we can do is we can throw some alloying elements in there and we can slow it down considerably. I got to see if I can find — here it is. So this is what we call the TTT diagram. We're not going to spend a lot of time on this. Temperature-time transformation diagram for 1080 steel — this is eight-tenths of a percent carbon — and it's on a log scale of time, and it's on temperature, and up here we austenitize to form face-centered cubic, we hold it there and then we quench it down, okay. So the cooling curve would come down through here somewhere. This is one minute over here, right here we're at one second, okay. For this stuff to transform — this is a diffusionless transformation, it's athermal, it doesn't depend on a specific temperature, it's just a thermodynamic thing. The thing will, by shear, literally the atoms shear and transform the crystal structure, and they do it at close to the speed of sound once you get a little nucleus formed, okay. Morris Cohen spent thirty years of his life looking for the martensite nucleus in microscope, never found it. About one chance in five million — the martensite nucleus, I mean, the site where the transformation begins. Yeah, there'd be some defects, and he even had a theoretical model of how the dislocation should form, a pseudo crystal structure of the body-centered cubic even though it was face-centered cubic, that dislocations could sort of put the atoms in a favorable orientation, that this would be the thing that we would first grow from. And he spent half of his career looking for a martensite nucleus, never found it.

p7 10:27

Student: Okay, being if you know how it forms, you'd not have it from forming, you could get away easier — or much more hardness?

No, he was just a scientist, he was interested. Just, you know, I mean, other people win the Nobel Prize for doing something that might be useful, okay. Just do it for pride.

Uh, so anyway, this is — if I go to a 5140, and I can't remember what, but this is probably got to — oh, 51 is chrome as I remember. Well now hey, I got two or three seconds, by adding some chrome it slows things down because chrome diffuses more slowly than, um, than uh, um, just carbon and manganese and stuff. If I go to a 1034, which is a third of a percent, I've got less than a second. I got — um, the other was a 1080 — um, and I actually have less than a second, it's impossible, we can't even measure it, okay. Uh, if I go to a 9261 I can get — if I forget that nose right there of this transformation curve — I, uh, have ten seconds, okay. Now I can be a lot more than that depending on the alloy content, but alloys cost money, and that's what I put up here on the board. Nickel, six dollars and fifty cents a pound as of last year. Yeah, I'm just — it hasn't fallen.

p8 11:58

Student: When you say you have ten seconds, what do you have ten seconds — if you, ten seconds to get all martensite without it transforming to the soft phase?

Martensite forms when you quench. How quickly do you have to quench? If you slow-cool it, it'll just go to BCC, it'll be nice soft steel, just like your bridge steel, okay.

Student: Sorry, and this is forming body —

Body-centered tetragonal. Yeah, trapping that carbon, keeping the carbon from diffusing, okay. You form martensite if you trap it in those sites. Remember the little ping-pong balls inside the basketball that I was talking about? That was hydrogen, but you can think of the same thing of carbon being trapped in its interstitial sites. When it transforms it forms a body-centered tetragonal, and if you can slow down the carbon diffusion, you can get martensite and you don't have to cool it so quickly, okay.

p9 12:52

Now, we did make alloy steels for Henry Ford and Alfred Sloan at General Motors in the 1930s and the 1920s, but we didn't have big plate applications until after World War II, okay. And one of the reasons is, we didn't know we needed good toughness until after all the Liberty ship failures.

Student: Barriers form any kind of metal, or right —

No, just in steel. Well, in steel, in some titanium, in some copper alloys, but in general, martensite, 99.9% of the martensite you'll ever be interested in is steel. Other crystal structures don't have this ability to do this. There are other martensites in other things. A martensite is now defined as just an example of shear transformation of the metal. The atoms just slide past each other, uh, due to shear stress, okay, or internal shear.

p10 13:53

Uh, in any case, if we start talking about nickel at six-fifty a pound, or if I'm going to put 1% nickel, which would be, um, uh, twenty pounds of nickel, that's $130 for 1% nickel. How much nickel is in HY-80? 3%, approximately. You're talking $400. You just doubled the price of steel by putting nickel in there, and you haven't even started to account for the chrome or the moly or the vanadium that's in there. Now chrome — we actually use ferrochrome, which is cheaper than pure chrome, because we already got iron in there and it's easier, cheaper to make this. So adding 1% chrome is only $2. Moly, which is only in HY-80 or HY-100 at a level of half a percent, four-tenths of a percent, plus $180 for 1%, so it's $90 to add the moly, okay. You end up taking a $400 steel and turning it into thousand-dollar steel by adding alloy elements. But now, instead of a sixteenth of an inch or an eighth of an inch of depth of hardening, I can harden a two-inch or four-inch piece. HY-80 is regularly hardened to four inches thick. Can be done — maybe, well probably not, up to six inches, okay. But four inches is mass.

p11 15:23

Student: What are you making that — that's even —

The hell — I'll give you an example. They were, uh, they were using HY-80 in the, um — this is Jerry Milgram, was a professor in 13, which is now Course 2N, but he was designing America's Cup yachts. And he called me up once — this is twenty years ago — and uh, they had a problem. They designed the keel, not keel, but the, uh, you know, what do you call it, the dorsal fin that's upside down, okay, you know, it's sort of vent, it's a center —

Student: Center thing —

That keeps you from sliding sideways, and when the wind is pushing you sideways. It's not the rudder, center board —

Student: It's the center board.

Center board, it's the center board, thank you, okay. They were designing the center board. It was — he was, uh, six inches thick, and it was HY-80, okay, or may have been HY-130, I don't remember, it was an HY steel, 'cause hey, he's a marine engineer, he knows HY steels. And when they went on the first sea trials, the center board bent, okay. A lot of force, okay. This was not a — this was like five or six feet long and six inches thick, and now had a big lever arm, right. But nonetheless, uh, they've bent it. So he called me, um, and that's when I first realized there were a couple of other faculty who were here at 6:00 a.m. Because he called me 6 a.m. one morning and offered to hire me as a consultant to help them figure out how to — well, they're going to go to 4340. Well, 4340 has got lots of nickel, chrome, moly and vanadium as alloy content. And I actually have — was John Lippold in his chapter on hydrogen cracking has these same plots — find — for — here it is, um — he has the same plot for, in quench hardenability — this is for, this is the — this is a 1046, so it's a 1046 steel, typically only has a small amount, this is martensite, high hardness — over here is bainite plus pearlite, that's what you get when you cool slow. And here he's got the same Jominy quench hardenability for 4340. Okay, 4-oh — that was 50 up there — 4340 down here, and now you can harden to 46, which is three and something, but look at it, I mean, the thing — the hardness is martensite, nearly 100% martensite full thickness. You extrapolate this out, you can go to eight or ten inches thick. So your question a little while ago, if you want to spend enough money and put enough alloy content in there, you can harden pretty thick.

p12 18:27

And in fact, there are some hardenable stainless steels that are 30-40% alloy content. You don't even have to quench them, we call them air-hardening. And in fact, if you want to make them soft, you have to furnace-harden them over several day— furnace-cool them over several days, 'cause you just take out a big forging of, uh, of stainless steel out of a furnace depending on its composition, and it just cooling naturally in the air, it will end up being quenched and temp— quenched, but not tempered, okay. So you can alloy things a lot. But now we're talking about — and when I said steel was $400, that's not really plate, where we don't have as high a yield. That's sheet metal for autom— you know, carbon steel for automobiles, or for little Red Flyer wagons that your kids pull around, you know, okay. Cheap, the cheapest steel you can get, that, rebar, $400 a ton right now. If I was talking about an alloy steel to make some bolts for some, you know, commercial application, it might be $1,000 a ton. If I'm talking HY-80 or HY-100, I'm probably talking 2,000, maybe even $2,500 a ton today, might be 3,000 — now, price has been going up, uh, in recent years — but it's not cheap.

p13 19:52

And then you add to that the fact that all your cutting — when you cut out, you're not going to use everything in nice rectangular sheets, you don't get 100% yield in the shipyard, you got a lot of, after you cut paper dolls out and weld them together, you got all this scrap left over. The actual cost of pound fabricated is about ten times the cost of the material you started with. In fact, the Navy did a million-dollar study down at Newport News. They were looking to, um, uh, reduce the, uh, the weight of aircraft carriers, and say, this — the weight of an aircraft carrier, the Nimitz-class carriers, which have been around for fifty years — and why don't we have a new hull design? Because it would cost $50 million — this was twenty years ago — to design a new hull before you even build it, just to design the shape of a new carrier is a $50 million bill. All the towing tank stuff and things you guys come back to learn how to do these types of things, and they want you to do it for fifty cents, okay. You'll have a summer over at Draper or something, where you get to design a ship, okay. It probably won't be a Nimitz, but, uh, anyway, replacement for the Nimitz. We still have the Nimitz.

p14 21:17

The Navy made a decision about fifteen years ago, uh, you know, I'm sure they could come up with better hull designs now than they did in 1960 or whatever they came with the Nimitz class. But they decided they didn't have it in their budget to spend $50 million on just a new design. It was going to create all kinds of headaches when you further down the road anyway, as you learn how to do things. So they — but the problem is, the Nimitz carriers, if you look at the history, we got fifty-year history, they gain 250 tons a year. I gain a little weight each year, so the carriers, okay. And most of it is not down the bottom, it's up top, right?

Student: Combat systems?

Mhm.

Student: So all the — what systems? A lot of the combat systems, whenever they're, like when they're not, like in the major like RCOH overhauls, like the intermediate ones, and a lot of times if they change out a combat system, you know, they'll install the new one and you know, they may remove all the components of the old one, but not usually. So there's all the extra weight of like different little bits and pieces, and as well as the extra wiring and cabling. They don't want to take it out just in case something doesn't work well. And then whenever, you know, whenever it gets to like its mid-life, you know, they go through and gut it out, you know, just to remove all that kind of junk.

But if you just — we've built a lot of carriers, about one a year over the years — I think that's about — we're still — maybe it's one every two years now, but we were building one a year for many years. But if you plot them, okay, it's 250 pounds a year on average, uh, that's a lot of weight.

p15 22:53

So they were using, uh — you can get, well, 36 ksi is the garden-variety steel for guard rails on highways, and, you know, little red, uh, Radio Flyer wagons, you know, you name it, 'cause garden-variety steel, 36 ksi. They can do — through this, go through this normalization heat treatment that I talked about the other day, that they were using at General Dynamics Quincy, where they put it in a furnace and then they slow-cool it rather than quench it, and you can get a finer grain size, and that finer grain size in your steel can get you up to 50 ksi. And so there are marine gauge grades that are called EH-32 or DH-32, and the 32 is kilograms per square millimeter, and that's 50 ksi, okay. If you go to the structural welding code for bridges now, actually, if you went to it in 1985, you would find A36, 36 ksi steel charts, and you find 50 ksi steel charts. So it's not much different. It's not martensite — if you want martensite, you can get 100 ksi with martensitic plate, or 80 ksi in HY-80. But without going to martensite, you could get 50 ksi. Well, and they did, the EH steels and the DH steels, they were using after World War II. Before — I think the Nautilus was one of the first HY-80 subs, but they were using 50 ksi steel, um, and where was I going with some of that? I don't remember.

p16 24:29

But anyway, the, um, uh, the point is, um, you can go to higher strengths, but it's going to cost you money because of alloy. And, oh, I remember, they — I was talking about the carriers. So they did this study. They wanted to go to 65 ksi with high-strength low-alloy steel technology, where you cool the steel after as it comes off the rolling mill, so red hot. But if you spray water on it — you can't quench it in water, but if you spray it with — it's more than a mist, but if you spray it with like a garden hose sprayer uniformly, you can cool it more rapidly. You can keep the grains from growing as big while it's red hot, and you can get 65 ksi. That's high-strength low-alloy steel. You don't have to put as much alloy in there because you're getting, using fine grain size, could be a hundred times finer grain size if you do — this is what I went over to Japan to, kind of, see if I could learn something from the steel companies. Japan and the Navy wanted to invest in this.

p17 25:30

Student: Yeah, when you say grain, it's just like a salt crystal, right, it's a collection of, uh —

Similarly facing metal crystals — they're not similarly facing, they're all random facing.

Student: I guess what I'm saying is like small — I'm confused asking a question — small grain size versus large grain size, right?

These are clusters of atoms that are all lined up. They're impinging on other grains in the structure. It's the difference between a snow cone and a, uh, slurpee. Snow cones have big grains and slurpees — you know, it's crushed ice — slurpees have fine grains. Slurpees stronger, right? Does that make sense?

Student: Yes, so it's basically chopping them while they're small?

Yeah, because if you let it cool on its own, a big heavy plate like that, you're going to get what we call an ASTM grain size of four, okay, with larger grain — or, smaller, larger numbers is smaller grain size, going as the square of the number, okay. If you do accelerated cooling — well, if you do accelerated cooling, you can get grain sizes that are ASTM 10. So five to ten, you know, five, you take two to the fifth power and square it, or whatever, you know, or something like that. That's the number of extra grains you got, okay, per volume, per unit volume, okay. And then you have to cube that to, anyway, to, uh, to get the linear dimension of the grain. But your grains are much smaller. Maybe if I remember on Monday I'll bring in a picture that shows you, when you can have grains in a — at 100x, you can have a grain that's that big at ASTM 1. If you were ASTM 4, you'd have the grain size of a period. And ASTM 10, on a 100x magnification, you'd have a grain size of a period on a sentence at the end of the sentence, okay. Huge differences in grain size.

p18 27:24

The only thing you can do to steel or any metal basically to get both strength and toughness, which is what we want to do, is fine grain size. You add alloying elements, you're hurting your toughness, but you're getting greater hardenability. Why do we do it? Because if we quench to martensite, it's smaller than that — the grain — the effective grain size in martensite is so small that you can't even see it on an optical micrograph at 100x. You got to go to electron microscope.

Student: A lot of small companies are working on, like, these crystal technologies, where they basically kind of grow one crystal that is one single grain. Yeah. And so the whole point being that's like, the flop stronger and has special properties that they need for electronics or whatnot.

And for electronics and for high temperature in engines, okay. Go ahead, yeah.

Student: So my question is, is it just a — is it just a stupid question to say, well, what about trying to create that within the metal? Like, what is it about metal that prevents you from creating a single grain crystal in any arbitrary large size of metal?

We do it. I'll bring in, if I can remember, I'll bring in my single-crystal turbine blade, okay, um. We make single-crystal turbine blades if you want creep resistance at high temperature, so it doesn't flow like Silly Putty does at room temperature. If you don't want it creeping and changing shape at high temperature, you want a single crystal. Those grains — fine grain size at elevated temperatures is a kiss of death, okay. And they go to make single crystals with no grain boundaries. They make single crystals in silicon because grain boundaries destroy the electronic properties, okay. If you look at, uh — I just bought some outdoor lights for my house that are solar-powered, and you can see the solar cells have grains that are an inch across. I mean, you can see the grains on the thing just looking at it. And the grains, it's like a piece of galvanized steel bucket, and see the huge grains. That's because wherever you have a grain boundary, you're losing — I mean, electrons are being lost, and you're not getting the solar efficiency. So you'd love to have single-crystal silicon for solar cells, but that's too expensive in general.

Student: I'm guessing, likewise, it's just way too — it's cost-prohibitive to make large-volume single-grain crystal metal?

Oh yeah, to make single-crystal metal, we grow it in a furnace at about a millimeter an hour, maybe two millimeters an hour, it's a little slow. But when you're sewing a turbine blade this big for $7,000, and you're growing twenty-four of them at a time — unless you're Rolls-Royce, they grow two at a time, but they have lots of small furnaces, whereas Pratt & Whitney and General Electric use, like, two or three dozens on one sprue, it's like a Christmas tree with turbine blades on the end, just break them all off.

Student: Yep.

Basically, yeah. It's what they call LMSC, but that's a different module, okay.

p19 30:27

Um, so anyway, I never did finish the story about HY — HSLA-65. So they wanted to go from their 50 ksi — there's a lot of 50 ksi steel on a carrier, you don't need 100 ksi everywhere. Actually, we've been using HY-100 on flight decks, which are about four inches thick. That's not classified, okay, you know, people don't — not that plates are okay, you calculate. But you have to have — the submarine hull is classified, but the flight deck is not. It's about four-inch-thick steel, and we've been using HY-100 for thirty, forty years, as long as I know, um — I don't know, it goes back to the original class of ships, because you need the extra strength because you got big heavy things on big broad spaces, end of the flight deck. But a lot of the rest of the ship is 50 ksi material. Could they save some weight by using HSLA-65 because of the new technology? In 1996, so they gave a million-dollar — NAVSEA gave a million-dollar grant to, uh, a contract to Newport News, to figure out what — how much money they could save and how much weight they could save. And they found they could save 2,000 tons. Well, that's eight years of carrier, you know, carrier design and development, without having to go to change your — this is when they're thinking about, do we need a new hull of our carriers, are getting so heavy we can't keep putting them in the Nimitz, right? Uh, and they spent a million dollars and said, you can take out 2,000 tons out of a typical Nimitz-class carrier, uh, and, um, you, but it will cost you ten dollars a pound. At that time the HSLA-65 was selling for $2,000 a pound, okay — 2,000 not a pound, $2,000 a ton — $2,000 a pound space, anyway.

p20 32:23

Uh, but, um, I could have told them that off the top of my head, 'cause I have a rule of thumb that the fabricated cost of a piece of metal, typically steel or aluminum or whatever, is titanium, is ten times the cost of buying the material. I gave you that little Defense Department 21st century, that number is in there, okay. I've been using that even before they gave the million-dollar grant. If NAVSEA had given me the million-dollar grant, I could have written them the report the next day and I could have cashed the check, okay. It's just — but I always liked that report, because I read the report, I thought, well, I've been saying this for years, this ten times, and that's exactly what they found, okay, with their big account-in study, okay.

But the point is, with high hardenability, high lots of alloying elements, lots of money, you can get all kinds of hardenability, okay, more than we really need in anything, um. We're going to build — I mean, you can make something twenty inches thick that would have high hardenability. So we have lots of steels, but with all these lots of steels we have all kinds of problems in welding them when they get thicker and in fact when Professor — and thicker, and in fact when Professor Milgram said, well, we want to use 4340 — which was that one I showed you, very high hardenability — he said, we want to weld it. I said — he said, can we do it? I said, if you got enough money, you can weld almost anything. Not anything, but almost anything. And it turns out they did. Well, didn't I — I helped them. But you have to preheat it, not to 400 degrees, this oven you can cook pizzas in, this is a 600-degree preheat for 4340, okay. And that's not a very pleasant thing to work around, okay. You don't necessarily wear blue jelly suits, but you do wear radiation protection when you're standing next to that, and you have fans blowing air through your suit and everything else, okay. Um, not pleasant. Can be done. Needs lots of quality control to make sure they did it right, okay.

p21 34:33

Um, why are all these things — um, this is out of a book that you'll get when we do stainless steels, uh, on weldability stainless steels, but it's useful in a sense. It looks at the diffusion coefficient in centimeters squared per second in alpha-iron and gamma-iron — this is body-centered cubic, face-centered cubic. I kind of pulled this out for the hydrogen at room temperature, 20 degrees C, or 1100 degrees, where we stress-relieve. Hydrogen diffusivity 10^-5 or 10^-3, doesn't change all that much. But look at the diffusivity of carbon — is actually fast-diffusing, but at room temperature is 10^-17, okay. And if you look down here at tungsten, which we don't use, you have 10^-60, okay. Hydrogen diffuses through steel just like steel — uh, just like water, okay. I ought to bring a demonstration in, like that.

p22 35:32

Anyway, in any case, and in gamma-iron rather than 10^-5 is 10^-10, okay. Hydrogen diffuses slower in — or, faster, slower in gamma-iron than it does in this, but its solubility is ten times as great. At high temperatures it's got the same diffusivity, but it's slow at lower temperatures. So, but if you look at hydrogen, it's just, it goes much faster. Carbon goes faster, 10^-13 versus 10^-20, 22, or 10^-15. I mean, carbon diffuses fast through iron. I can slow it down by putting other things, like manganese has an affinity for carbon, um, or chromium has an affinity for carbon, and so the carbon atoms aren't as free to move. They like to stay near their neighbors, they like chromium atoms.

p23 36:28

Uh, actually, that might sound sort of fatuous, but a lot of the computational, um, metallurgy that people do today is actually getting down to the quantum level, and it's not much different than basically how many nearest neighbors do you have that are chromium or nickel or whatever, and how does that influence the vibrational jump frequency of the atom going to the next site, okay, and you can start to predict the rate of phase transformations. And that's all this is, a phase transformation, okay.

Now, if I go to good old Stout and Doty [Doty], which came out in the 1940s, originally I think it was — 1940s, say — about the first edition, uh, this one just says C 1987 for the fourth edition, but the first edition as I remember was in the 1940s, uh, and Bob Stout was the professor at Lehigh, which was the big welding school at the time. But in the back of Stout and Doty there's about twenty pages. Starts out with steel number one, okay, and it's ASTM A27, which is steel castings. And steel number two is ASTM A36, which is structural steel. That's the garden-variety steel that we make bridges and stuff out of. And it goes all the way up — I guess I don't have it here — but the last entry is steel number 200. There are a lot of steels. They all have different weldability. And when, um, people would call me up over the last twenty-five years and say, Tom, we got some steel, uh, we need a welding procedure, can you write us a welding procedure, all I would do is go pull Stout and Doty off the shelf, go back to the index in the back, find the steel, and it says right here, depending on the carbon content — and this particular steel castings can have a range of carbon content and it have a range of thicknesses because you only harden to a certain thickness, right? Uh, for each steel, it will tell me minimum preheat and interpass temperature. This is how much you have to heat up the steel in order to prepare it so the hydrogen will diffuse out while you're welding it in that thickness, okay.

p24 38:55

You remember the little video that we did, a finite element analysis on, the video I showed you of the hydrogen in two different thicknesses of steel, quarter-inch and inch, preheated and non-preheated, and how fast the hydrogen diffuses through when you weld it on it? And you know, you go back and watch that, but you'll find this is basically just a 1940s table version of what to do. And so I'd look up the steel, I'd say what's the thickness, and what's the chemical composition of the steel? There's a firm out here that does a lot of architectural work, for example. They were working on, um, the Charles Street MBTA station, built in 1910, okay. Wasn't even — didn't even have steel specifications back then for some of the steels they were using, but they had to weld to some of these things when they're rebuilding the thing. So they say, hey, okay, here's a — you know, they got to know that. Uh, for 500 bucks, I would write them a welding procedure, um, if they told me the chemical composition and the thickness of the steel. There, well, that's all I really needed to know. Well, here's the chemical composition and here's the thickness, and I would go to this book, and I actually even told them this much, but they never wanted to learn how to do it. They really wanted to pay me the 500 bucks, okay. It took me five minutes. I make 500 bucks for five minutes' work, okay. Uh, and it will tell me what preheat should be, if you need a postweld heat treatment, and whether you need to peen it, which is hammer the surface to relieve residual stresses. Uh, postweld heat treatment would be a stress-relief heat treatment. Lots of different welding procedures, they're right there in Stout and Doty.

p25 40:38

Now, in fact, we'll look, um, probably next week at one of the welding codes that sort of superseded this, and there are other ways, uh, to calculate all that stuff. Any questions? So now you know why we have lots of different steels, lots of different alloys. When you get into the railroad business or the automotive business, they'll sell their souls to give you a steel that's $20 less per ton, okay, because they're making — they're making product of a million tons of that steel when you're in automotive or railroad business, okay. So $20 a ton is worth $20 million. So they'll have a special steel that's just got — just for that thickness and that hardness — it's optimized, okay, because you're talking millions of dollars for small amounts, tenths of a percent of alloy content, okay. That's why you got hundreds of steels. Now when we get to nickel alloys and, um, and things, you're going to find you can put all the nickel alloys on two pages, whereas the steel takes ten pages, and aluminum alloy takes three pages, okay. And it's just how much of these materials we use and how specialized it is and how many millions of tons we're talking about in shaving the alloy content.

p26 42:01

So let's go back, if you don't have a question, let's go back and talk about what happened with the Seawolf. So I'll pull up this HY-100. But they were welding HY-100 in the Seawolf. It was the first full-scale, uh, ship — uh, submarine — with HY-100. They've been welding HY-80 for years, decades, uh, forty years, um, and successfully for thirty of those forty years, okay. And the first ten years were a little hairy, okay. Uh, whenever they switch to a new steel, they have all kinds of problems. Even no matter what they do, they always find new problems when they do on full-scale production. So uh, they were welding HY-100. They had built two modules. You know, submarines are built in modules, right? And so you may have, if it — we'll just say it's thirty feet in diameter roughly, okay, and you've got a module that's also about thirty or forty feet long, and they can lift these whole modules, which might weigh what, five hundred or thousand tons, I would — I would know. It's a lot. They're light there. You have big trains to move these things. And they build them in modules, and that speeds up the whole production process and saves money, um. They had built modules and put HY-100 whole modules in HY-80 hull steel — steel chips — because they wanted to get the experience. In fact, my first student ever, John Galligan, was working at Electric Boat, and he was assigned the responsibility to build the first HY-100 module hulls, okay, not for the Seawolf, but for the couple ships that preceded it, okay.

p27 43:51

So what happened is, there's always a range of alloy content, okay, and it turns out the weld metal is not exactly — is, it's modified to optimize for the weld zone, and you buy the wire from someone like Lincoln Electric, who's the world's largest, uh, manufacturer of welding electrodes like these and welding wire. Uh, when it's gas-metal arc, it's just a bare wire, and you use argon shielding for the wire. And um, so that — NAVSEA had a spec, and it turns out the wire they got was what they called high-side wire. It had higher hardenability because of higher alloy content. It was met spec, but everything was on the high side. The chromium was on the high side of the range, nickel was on the high side of the range, you know, everything was on the high side of the range, which meant that even though it was supposed to be HY-100 weld metal for HY-100, which means they were shooting for like 120 or 130 ksi yield, because you want slightly overmatching weld metal rather than undermatching, for fracture reasons, um, they actually got something that was more like 130 or 140 ksi. This would have been good for HY-130 steel. And that meant you had to hold your hydrogen to much tighter tolerances. And typically in a shipyard you can get about four parts per million deposited weld metal hydrogen.

p28 45:21

And I will put up here this, which is — you will not find this in a book, this little table, this is a Tom Eagar table, but it's approximately correct, okay. If you search through a bunch of books and then a little interpolation, you can come up with this. At full restraint, which when you build these eggshell-type constructions it's pretty restrained, that metal is not moving anywhere, okay, it's pretty stiff, um, the approximate hydrogen — if you got a 70 ksi tensile strength steel, which is like the 50 ksi, you know, submarine steel, the 1950s, you can tolerate 30 parts per million hydrogen. That means you can weld with a cellulosic electrode, and you're not going to get cracking. If you're 120 ksi, you could probably tolerate ten parts per million. So they had a little leeway there when they were doing HY-80, or an HY-80 is actually about 100, 105 ksi in the weld metal, and you could probably tolerate things, and they had learned to get down to four parts per million, and they could do it consistently. And that was one of the reasons they were encouraged to go to HY-100, um.

p29 46:34

Well, it turns out they were really at about 140 — this circle was getting bigger. Remember those three circles? You've got microstructure, you got stress, and you got hydrogen. And you want to keep all of these as small as possible. Unfortunately, we're using this martensitic structure is the most susceptible structure to hydrogen. The finest grain size — and I'm not sure anyone really knows exactly why martensite's the worst, but we've done plenty of studies and we have the worst type of structure, but it gives us some of the best toughness and it gives us some of the highest strengths. Well, when we have higher strength, we have higher stress, okay, 'cause it goes up to the yield stress when you start welding these things and all the residual stress. Well, and the hydrogen — what happened to the hydrogen? Well, they actually measured the hydrogen content when I was brought in, um, uh — I don't remember the exact numbers, and they told us, don't tell anyone. It wasn't because it was so classified, it was because it was embarrassing they had this problem, okay. Uh, but as I remember, they had numbers in the range of five to fifteen parts per million hydrogen that they were measuring in welds that they had taken out — known samples they'd taken out of the sub Seawolf, um. Well, clearly you look at this little table and, hey, if I'm at even HY-180 I can only — write — tolerate two or three. I can't weld that stuff even with my best welding processes in the shipyard. I'm going to be down at — at too high a hydrogen level, I'm going to have to use higher preheats and everything else, okay, to drive the hydrogen out afterwards.

p30 48:30

Well, turns out they didn't have a lot of data. They brought us in early on. There were six of us. There were two of us who were individuals, and there were four companies. And uh, one of the individuals who had been head of welding at one of the big electrode manufacturers got bounced early on because he spoke to the press, okay. So there were five of us left. But I looked at the data, and it turns out they had three different wires, I think. The wire diameters are like .045 is standard wire, sixteenth, which is .063, and what's, uh, 3/32 is .093 — what's 3/32, .093, whatever — anyway, whatever 3/32 is. Uh, these are standard welding electrode sizes. And I looked at this and I plotted it, and it turns out I would see higher hydrogen on average — this was just a very crude average — the smaller the wire. And so I concluded it was drawing lubricant. Why? Because it should have less — a smaller wire, uh, well, if they all — if it's inherent hydrogen in the weld — I mean, the welding process was, you know, they were using the same argon in the shipyard no matter what the wire size. But what's different about these? The smaller wires have a higher surface-to-volume ratio, okay, it goes as 1/R. So I get more surface per pound of weld metal with a smaller-diameter wire, and I saw higher hydrogen. And so I'm now telling you — my report, which was not classified but we weren't supposed to tell it to the press, and now it's twenty almost twenty-five years later, so who cares, right? But that was — and I've said it to classes before — uh, that was my conclusion, that it was drawing lubricant that was on the wire, okay.

p31 50:38

Drawing lubricant — when you draw the wire, you have to use a grease —

Student: Oh, from the school?

Okay, in the — in the mill. And then you're supposed to clean that off. Well, really good wire today, not necessarily back then, they actually skive the wire. They draw the wire with the lubricant, and now for an extra cost they actually will put it through another wire-drawing die that machines off the surface, basically just skives — you know, they call it skiving, okay — they clean off the top thousandth or two, to make sure no drawing lubricant got down in little crevices or whatever that, and got rolled into the surface or something, to get even lower residual drawing lube organics. Uh, Lincoln Electric didn't like this theory, for obvious reasons.

p32 51:30

Now, another question came up at that — when I went to the second meeting down there in Crystal City, um, they had two captains. And uh, one captain — they said, these two captains want to talk to you, because they'd all read the reports, 'cause we had to put the reports in a couple weeks earlier. And uh, they said, these two captains want to talk to you. And so it's a big room, there were fifty people in the room, and uh, I went over in a corner to talk to these two captains, and they were introduced to me, I don't remember the names. They said, this captain is responsible for operating all subs at sea, you know, and this captain is responsible for maintenance of all the subs at — okay. And they wanted to know what they had to do about the two ships that have been built with these modules of HY-100 in the hull. Did they have to bring them into port and replace the modules in the hulls, or did they have to derate them, or what, okay. By derating, you can't go as deep as, you know, normal envelope, you can't go as fast or whatever, right? And I said, well, the good news is you don't have to do either, but when you do come in, you have to do more inspection, okay. And I told them that because of fracture mechanics, okay, 'cause they didn't prep me for this, I just sort of off the wily.

p33 52:57

If I look at the fracture toughness, and I know that the fundamental equation of fracture mechanics says the toughness is going to — must be greater than the stress times the square root of pi times the crack length. Well, we knew the crack length size of these things, they were all less than an eighth of an inch. I already told you about that, how the guy, you know — they were looking for eighth-of-an-inch flaws by the regular, uh, magnetic particle and everything else. These things are like, um, a sixteenth of an inch or less, half that size. And I said, you don't have to do either one because the stress is whatever the stress is, and let's say that the stress is half the yield stress. I mean, you got to have a safety factor, and so let's say they designed — and I don't know what they designed the ship to, but let's say it's 50 ksi, it's got to be something like that, or you're going to run into fatigue problems.

Student: Are you talking about the inducd stress of a metal due to joining, or are you talking about that low stress induced by the pressure?

Oh, some designer doesn't even know how to weld or welds exist. What average stress do I have in that structure, okay? This is stress.

Student: What stress?

I said, "academic" — you said "design," academic — well, that's not academic, it's the design stress. They call it the design stress. This is when the guy first pulls out a sheet of paper. It's actually not an NC — they're actually getting some consultant to start doing this stuff under NAVSEA's guidance — and they're going to say, okay, we got 100 ksi material, we're going to design this ship for 50 ksi operating stress as the maximum stress that should ever see in service. The actual stress it might actually see may only be 30 ksi, but we're going to design it, and we're going to have nowhere in that structure that has more than 50 ksi, because if we do, we're going to run into fatigue problems. You need a factor of two safety to avoid fatigue. Commercial, military, doesn't matter, you need a factor of two.

p34 54:55

So I just said, okay, if I take 50 ksi as my maximum stress that the thing should ever see, and I know that the toughness of HY-100 should be on the order — and you have no reason — you got, should know — this 50 ksi square root of inch, it has very unusual units because it has to have the same units on this side of the equation as here, okay, just the way it works out. I can actually do this in my head, I did it in my head for them, I didn't have to pull out a calculator. X^2 is equal to square root of pi C, 4 is equal to pi C, 4 over pi is equal to C — the critical flaw size is over an inch, okay. There's no way these cracks are going to grow in — what's it, a couple years before the ship comes back for some overhaul? Not a major overhaul, but coming in for some maintenance. Couple of years, no way a little sixteenth-of-an-inch crack is going to grow to a one-inch size and cause the ship to fail, okay, in that period.

But so, they don't have to derate it, but when it comes in, you got to go in, and you've got to go on every time it comes in, you got to select 10, 20%, whatever, of those welds on the hull, and you got to do a very good inspection, better than usual, to make sure you know how big those cracks have gotten. If they're at 3/8 of an inch in size when you come in for that maintenance, you may have to do some repairs. But the odds are — I said, the odds are sixteenth-of-an-inch flaws, you do the extra inspection, and those ships can stay out there until you're ready to scrap them and you'll never have to do anything. But you don't know for sure, right? So you have to do something. And in fact, you certainly weren't going to send out their number one ship, okay, when you knew it was full of cracks, okay, as if anything ever did happen, they would probably fire the entire U.S. Navy at that point, okay. So uh, some heads have got a roll, and, you know, not senators in Congress's head, okay, they always except themselves, okay.

p35 57:09

So that's what happened in Seawolf, and that's where fracture mechanics can tell you what do you have to do. Doing extra inspection is what you need to do. Uh, to give you a similar example, anybody remember Aloha Airlines? Got to do something here for Adrian, the aerospace industry, right, because other people during the school year could be watching this and they might be in the automotive business or whatever. Aloha Airlines, anybody remember that, the one with the window —

Student: Crack?

Uh, that — what you're thinking of is the Comet, which was the 1950s. They had square windows, uh, on this British-designed aircraft, and they were flying them across the Atlantic in the 1950s and they would just disappear in the Atlantic, uh, because basically they were getting fatigue cracks from stress concentration in the corner. You will not see square windows in airplanes since then, okay. But the top of the aircraft, the top half — actually more than 180 degrees, top half — section just blew off. The only person who died was one waitress — or stewardess, sorry, not waitress — one stewardess wasn't belted. Everyone that was belted in survived. You know, 40,000 feet, the top blows off. I was impressed — wow, that the whole thing didn't break into two. If you look up — if you Google Aloha Airlines, there'll be a picture of it. It's a fairly famous picture, sitting on the ground, and over half the top is gone.

p36 58:42

And it turns out what happened, this was like in the early 1990s or something — there are more fatigue pressure cycles in airlines in Hawaii than anywhere else on the 737, because every flight, no flight is more than forty minutes. The islands are all close to each other, okay, and usually find bigger aircraft over too, so Aloha just flew between the islands, and it got 40,000 cycles in like the first thirty hours of life — three, 30,000 hours of life or whatever. And typically a Boeing aircraft is designed for 100,000 hours of service, okay. You figure out how many fatigue cycles you're going to get. Well, they hadn't accounted for someone just island-hopping in Hawaii, and so they had accumulated more cycles. Boeing had requirements for inspection after so many hours, and increasing inspection requirements after so many hours, but it was for the fleet on average. They were taking averages for the whole world of 737s, not for Hawaii, okay. Yeah, you're scowling at me.

Student: Oh no, I just — I see the picture of it, pretty crazy.

Okay, you can — you can show it to people here. I tell you what, give it to me and I'll see if I post it on the board. See if this works, see if my projector works.

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[Tom puts the image up on the projector.] You see, so there it is right there, see everybody standing there on top of the aircraft? Well, that's actually they're in the middle of the aircraft, okay. I guess I could blow it up a little bit. See them?

Student: So there're better pictures from these, but anyway.

Yes, okay, it's pretty scary. I mean, to think — oh, flying along, the roof flies off like in a tornado or something. Well, turns out, um, uh, Aloha Airlines was the fatigue leader, okay. And they had, around the rivet holes and everything else, no tech— no fracture that Boeing didn't know about. Boeing is — very — they got some of the top fracture people in the world, okay. Uh, the guy who taught me fatigue and fracture was Professor Reggie Pelloux, who got his PhD here, actually his ScD here, and then he went off to Boeing and then he came back here as a faculty member and specialized in fatigue and fracture. So Boeing has top-notch people, um, and they pay attention to safety. This was one where they kind of got broadsided. No, you know, like I said, only one person died in this particular accident, but it was sort of a wake-up call for, how do you do your averaging of cycles, and you have to look at the outlier here, which was the Aloha Airlines. They had a lot more. But they have the same type of thing, and their critical flaw sizes, uh, for the sheet metal skin and stuff, I mean it's like several feet, they had big cracks, okay. But no one was looking for them because no one expected them. They were kind of the outlier leader, okay.

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I do similar work over the last ten or fifteen years down here for Cape Air. Flies Cessnas, and they put more hours on Cessnas than anybody else. And so their head of maintenance, whenever he saw, uh, a crack or a problem that he had never seen before, he would call me up and he'd send me the part, and he'd say, tell us what happened. And I'd look at it metallurgically and look at his fatigue or whatever it was, and try to give my assessment. And then I'd have to write — typically it'd be a one-page letter, sometimes a page and a half. And that letter — I would write it to him, and over the years I learned that what he would do with that, he would send — huh, he would send it to Cessna, 'cause Cessna needed to know what was going to happen to all their other aircraft. Cape Air was flying more cycles, getting more fatigue cycles than anybody else. They were the market leader in cracks, okay. And they would also send a copy because they had to report it to Federal Aviation Administration, which turns out for that particular type, the FAA, they divided up the work, it's in Burlington, Massachusetts, right here, right across from Burlington Mall. And so, um, I never actually had to get into, uh, some sort of fight, and I never really got direct feedback from Cessna or from the FAA, but I know from other things that happened that they were reading my reports, okay, of, you know, I was just doing a failure analysis of why it occurred, okay, and was it a stress concentration, was it over, you know, higher stresses than expected. In most cases it was just it was really old, okay, and things wear out after time. And that's basically what happened at Aloha Airlines, okay.

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So, uh, one day we will finish steels, but hopefully — and I don't, I actually don't mind the comment about everything Steel, I've heard that comment in years past, okay, but a lot of this stuff does apply to things other than steel, uh, and we're almost done with hydrogen. If I hadn't told you a few stories, we could have probably finished hydrogen in steels today. But uh, believe me, we'll start to go faster through the other metals because you are learning some metallurgical principles that apply to more than just steels, okay. It's just easier to kind of tell the story with steels when I'm talking to a bunch of people who make ships out of steel, okay.