§1. Course schedule and the Westbrook plot [00:00]
Schedule for the rest of this week: I'll be lecturing three days, Dr. Belmar will be here on Thursday, and I'm not sure about the week after that. That's why I've got question marks everywhere. I've got to be out of town on two of these days, so I'll try to get that straight with him before tomorrow to let you know what's happening next week. If he's going to do eight lectures and I do twelve or thirteen, we'll probably be done by the end of February with live lectures, and then of course you have all the canned lectures you could ever want.
Properties of structural materials vary over about ten to the fifth. If you look at all the Ashby plots, they go about five orders of magnitude, and it turns out if you look at this curve right here, they also go over about a factor of a hundred thousand in cost per pound. So tremendous variability in properties, but the properties are limited. Now, there's one thing on this particular plot — this is Jack Westbrook's 1962 plot of structural materials going from stone, at what I estimate is about six billion tons a year, to diamond, which is considerably less in volume and weight. The iso-market-size lines are these dashed lines, and the usage trend lines are these steeper solid lines.
What does that mean? In the long run, if I can cut the cost by a factor of two, I'll increase the market size by a factor of four, which means a doubling of the dollar volume of the market. So in the long run, it's better to be productive and reduce the cost of materials. Maybe not the short run — there might be a lot of temporary things in the short run — but in the long run, over five or ten years. And why do I say the long run is five or ten years? It takes industry or society about five or ten years to make adjustments. After the 1973 Arab oil embargo, one of the problems was none of the utilities could operate without oil. They couldn't switch to natural gas or coal. But once the Arabs stuck the gun to their head economically and said we're not going to sell you oil, and they were essentially out of business, they invested in the ability to, just at the flick of a switch, change oil to gas or to put in coal-burning facilities to substitute for oil. So the next time the Arabs tried it, five years later, they were a lot less successful, and when they tried it five years after that it was a flop. Industry had adapted over five or ten years. So the time scale is five or ten years in my opinion.
I also said something that surprises a lot of people in this department: materials are a relatively small fraction of the product cost, typically only about ten percent. For semiconductors and some other things, material cost is maybe one percent. For pipelines and transmission towers for electrical transmission, it might be thirty percent. But in general, materials are not a large fraction. It's all the erection and construction and non-destructive testing and design — all that other stuff that mechanical engineers do primarily — that are the big cost of a product. So if you pay $25,000 for a Ford Taurus or a Toyota Camry — or a Chevy Malibu, so we're going to try to be ecumenical here — it's only about $2,500 worth of materials.
What is probably the largest single item in the value of selling a twenty-five-thousand-dollar car? Lee Iacocca made this argument a number of years ago: health care. The largest single item in the cost of a new automobile is the health care for the workers. Actually, the engine or the body frame is the largest cost, but the second highest cost in an automobile is the seats. If you do studies, people will pay a lot more for good seats in an automobile. They want to be comfortable when they get into an accident. And the hardest thing to recycle in that automobile is the seats. Just another factoid for you.
§2. Density and the dollar-per-pound saved [05:37]
One of the key points about this type of curve is that in the long run, if you can improve productivity, things get better and better. It's always good to pass things around — it gives you something to throw at each other. [Tom hands a bar of magnesium around the class.] This is a bar of magnesium, one foot long, one inch in diameter. It's fairly light. [Tom hands a bar of zinc around.] This is a bar of zinc, same size, different density. Pretty dramatic. If I had beryllium, it would be almost exactly the same as magnesium — they have almost the same density. However, a bar of beryllium like that, instead of costing a couple of dollars like the magnesium or the zinc, would cost probably tens of thousands of dollars. [Tom hands a piece of aluminum around.] Here's a piece of aluminum. Someday I should get a piece that's of a similar size; I probably could afford it. I did look into buying a piece of beryllium once and they wanted to charge me a thousand dollars for a little disc, a sixteenth of an inch thick and one inch in diameter. [Tom hands a piece of nickel and a piece of titanium around.] This is a piece of nickel, one foot long, higher density. This piece of titanium — I have a piece of one-inch-thick titanium lying around from my very first research contract; I'll talk about this later. This is a nickel-base alloy. So you get a feel for the difference in density.
Density is very important if you're going to try to save weight, and it turns out the faster something goes, the more important weight is. One time I was supposed to give a talk, I couldn't go, and Professor Sadoway went. It was a talk down in Washington or somewhere, so they paid to get fancy overheads done. This is thirty years ago. This is my talk on the dollar of a pound saved: automobiles, two dollars; aircraft, two hundred dollars; spacecraft, twenty thousand. It's important when you hear someone talking about a wonderful new material and how it's going to change the aerospace industry — okay, but it's not going to change the automotive industry, because you're talking several orders of magnitude difference in cost.
However, there are cases where this oversimplified version of cost breaks down, and that's where we get collateral weight savings. [Tom produces a jet turbine disc.] People have been trying for years to make a jet turbine disc that does not have to have the big heavy flange and the mechanical attachment. This is a nickel-base superalloy, and this one I actually have because it sort of broke. This was a land-based turbine that generates electric power. You can tell by passing this around that most of the weight is down here in the root — the mechanical attachment. This was probably only spinning at six or seven thousand rpm, but that's a lot of centrifugal force. If we had a material that was lighter weight, we'd love to use it. In the compressor section, where we only go to eight or nine hundred degrees centigrade, we do use titanium. But in the combustor section, the hot section of the engine, we don't use titanium. The reason is, titanium tends to ignite above 900 degrees centigrade — it dissolves its own oxide and no longer has the protective oxide. There have been a number of combustor fires in jet engines where the titanium ignited. It's exactly like a sparkler going off; it's exactly the same thing as a flare. We use titanium powder or aluminum powder or magnesium powder in flares to give us the big bright light. Once that fire starts, it's all over — you can't put it out. There were a number of fires about ten years ago in aircraft engines. It's a bad day for the engine when the engine ignites that way.
So a pound saved is worth a lot of money, but it depends on where it's saved. If you save it in the disc — the disc has a great big flange on the outside, and the further out it is the worse it is, because it's spinning and centrifugal force means there's a lot of stress. If you have to have a big heavy flange to make the mechanical attachment — people would love to weld the blade directly to the disc, and then you don't need this heavy flange and heavy root section. Plus, when you're going at those speeds, you don't want any vibration or flutter, so they machine those very precisely, like two-millionths-of-an-inch tolerance. They have to broach them — if you know what broaching is, you basically use a knife of a known shape and size and just cut right through, so it's absolutely identical. It's the most expensive part of the blade-making process, making that root section strong. If you could weld the blade to the disc, you can get rid of all this extra weight for the mechanical attachment. That's called a bladed disc, or a blisk. There's only one high-volume engine I know of, it's been around for over thirty years, the Rolls-Royce M250 — used to be Detroit Diesel Allison, but Rolls-Royce owns Detroit Diesel Allison now in Indianapolis. It makes a cast blisk. The disc is actually cast with the blades. I'd like to get one. They've made about 50,000 of these engines. It's only about this big, and the blades are integrally cast to the disc. It's the only blisk that I know of in high-volume production. They'd love to make the great big disc as a blisk, because they could save twenty pounds on a disc. If you save twenty pounds on the disc, and if you have ten discs in an engine, you save two hundred pounds in the engine. If you save two hundred pounds out there on that little diving board we call the wing, you save two thousand pounds on the airframe. So the Air Force is very interested in this, because two thousand pounds of weight savings could be either further range or more payload. You've got the tradeoff: carry more fuel for greater range, or more payload to drop on the enemy.
So a pound of weight saved on that high-speed spinning disc can translate to ten times the weight. If the average value of two hundred pounds saved on the airframe of an aircraft is worth two hundred dollars, then if you save twenty pounds on a blisk, you're actually up in the aerospace cost-savings range. So there's a principle I came up with once, at the time Sadoway was giving my talk for me: the faster something moves, the more we'll pay for low density. For equal volumes, one will pay less for less dense material, and you get about a factor of ten. This is just a hyperbola, where you go from relative cost of a hundred for something at density one, which is plastic, to something with a density of ten — that nickel piece back there has got a density of almost nine. So we don't use nickel because it's lightweight; we use it because it has good high-temperature properties.
Lightweight is important, but it's not important if the thing floats. We don't really care too much about the weight of ships. I mean we do, but it's not that critical, because it's only worth twenty cents a pound for the superstructure. We don't care about great big nuclear reactors, because they're not moving, they're stationary, just a big heavy weight sitting on the ground. We do care about the weight of advanced aircraft. [Tom displays a model or image of the V-22 Osprey.] This is the early version of the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey, which is now the Osprey that the Marine Corps and Air Force use. It's a tilt-rotor aircraft. This could not have been built without carbon fiber composites. You couldn't have designed it out of aluminum — it's too heavy for this aircraft. The whole thing is carbon fiber reinforced composite. And that's why it started out at fifteen million dollars a pop, and now they're about sixty million dollars a pop when they actually got into it.
§3. The X-33 hydrogen tank and Sprague's first law [16:08]
[Tom holds up a piece of composite material.] I passed around a piece from this. This was an artist's rendition of the X-33 space plane that was supposed to be a half-size prototype that was going to go into space to replace the proven design that was going to replace the space shuttle. The fuel had to be lightweight — it was hydrogen and oxygen tanks. You had to design it so the tanks actually are the structure. You can't afford to build a structure to give strength and then put some fuel tanks on. The fuel tanks actually have to provide the strength for the structure in order to meet the weight requirements of this engine. It failed because — actually, the reason I have that little piece is, the hydrogen tanks were built in the same hangar at the Lockheed Martin Skunk Works in Palmdale, California where they built the first stealth fighter. It's not that big — the size of about two basketball courts. They had the all-composite stealth fighter in there, and then the space was available and they were going to build the X-33 space plane. They built the hydrogen tanks at a cost of $250 million a tank.
There's only one place in the world that I know of, Huntsville, Alabama, where NASA has a facility that can test this — they could put liquid hydrogen into the tank and see if it worked. They had a bad bonding problem. In one of my other lectures, and probably the joining course, I talked about how they had adhesively bonded this and how they made a mistake. They wanted a factor of two safety on the design, but when they found that the autoclaving of the adhesively bonded joints was not quite what they wanted, they sharpened their pencils and said, well, a factor of 1.05 is good for a safety factor, which means it has five percent extra capability. They put it in a test with 5,000 gallons of liquid hydrogen and cooled it down — it held. Everybody's sitting there, get out the champagne, we survived our test, we'll be able to fly this thing. And they start taking the hydrogen out, it starts to warm up, and then it goes pop. As it warmed up, it failed. So a 1.3-billion-dollar program that was cancelled because they couldn't build it.
That brings up this slide. I've quoted this before, from Bob Sprague, who was head of materials for General Electric aircraft engines in Cincinnati for many years: whenever you first hear about the properties of a new material, write it down — those are the best properties the material will ever have. This is actually Jim Williams' slide; he gave this to me once after he heard me quote Bob Sprague. He calls it Sprague's first law: whenever you first hear about the material, write it down. His corollary: whenever you first hear about the price of a new material, write it down, and that's the lowest price it will ever have. Materials scientists tend to oversell their materials big time, because they want you to believe they just discovered the Rosetta Stone of materials and everything will be made out of their material next year. Doesn't quite work that way.
There's an article that will be posted called "Bringing New Materials to Market." I mentioned Technology Review — this was published in 1995 in Technology Review. It talks about the fact that it takes twenty years from the first discovery of a new material to actually making large-scale economic development, large-scale production. That's one of the reasons venture capitalists don't like to invest in new materials companies, because it's a twenty-year payback. As the author of this — which was me — pointed out in 1995, if you want a return at eight percent, and you're going to invest a dollar today but not get your profit back for twenty years, at eight percent, which was at the time a typical internal rate of return that companies had for investments, you have to return twenty dollars twenty years from now. That's a lot.
Because of that, there's lots of things we just don't invest in. Anybody know how long, for a hundred years, we've had the same amount of oil reserves in the world, in terms of number of years of oil reserves? We've had twenty years of oil reserves for the last hundred years. The reason is, once you have twenty years of proven reserves — you know you drilled the well, you found this big pot of oil — you quit investing in drilling for oil, or developing new technology for oil, because twenty years is all you can afford to invest in; you can't get a big enough return more than twenty years ahead. So we've always had twenty years' worth of oil. I remember when I was a student they were predicting we were going to run out of oil by 1990. Well, we didn't. We ran out of two-dollar-barrel oil. The Saudis and the Kuwaitis actually have about four-dollar-barrel oil now, partly because of inflation. But the rest of the world is up in the twenty-dollar-barrel range. You raise the price of something and people will start investing in it.
§4. Magnets and the rare-earth revolution [23:14]
Same type of thing with rare earth magnets. The rare earths that are used in lots of electronic things nowadays — the rare earth magnets. Originally there wasn't a big market for them, and in this paper, "Bringing New Materials to Market," I use this as one of the exceptions. General Motors discovered neodymium-iron-boron magnets. [Tom passes a pair of rare-earth magnets around.] That's what these very strong rare-earth magnets are. You can barely pull them apart. Pass it around. Second, they're very brittle — you'll see someone cracked one. They discovered these rare-earth magnets that had tremendous strength. These are not structural materials, but I'll show you some plots of what these things do. Here's the magnetic coercivity of magnet alloys over time. This is the BH product. B is the self magnetic field, H is the applied field, and the strength of a motor goes as the magnetic field squared, or the self field times the applied field. This is what we had with Alnico magnets — those were the strong magnets when I was a kid. Then we came up with samarium cobalt, which we studied when I was an undergraduate here. They were working in the 1970s on samarium cobalt at General Electric research, and then in the 1980s General Motors came up with neodymium-iron-boron, which is about forty times greater than the old magnets we had years ago.
[Tom produces an Alnico magnet and a welding electrode.] This is an Alnico magnet. I have a piece of steel here, a welding electrode — I'll pass around the welding electrode and you can feel how strong it is. [Tom produces a cow magnet.] If I know what this shape magnet is — you can buy these off Amazon — it's a cow magnet. Anybody know why you call it a cow magnet? You put it in a cow's mouth and hold her mouth closed and she will swallow it. You want it in the cow's stomach, because cows will go out and graze and eat old tin cans and things like that, and that goes in and destroys their stomach and their intestines. But if you have a stainless steel magnet that will not dissolve in their stomach — the hydrochloric acid in their stomach will dissolve a steel can — cows eat steel, not intentionally, but it's not good for them. [Tom passes a neodymium-iron-boron magnet around.] This is a neodymium-iron-boron magnet, and it has about eight times the strength. Try to slide these apart if you want.
When I was your age I couldn't afford to pay to have my car repaired. Nowadays I pay a mechanic to do it, but back then I had to rebuild the starters on cars. It's sort of a pain, kind of dirty. A starter motor weighed about fifty or sixty pounds, and a starter motor on a car today is about the size of your fist. That's because they're using neodymium-iron-boron magnets. In the old days they used Alnico magnets, which aren't as strong. When the Sony Walkman came out in the early '80s, this was the great music thing, and you put your double-A batteries in there that lasted for about two hours. Now you have batteries in your music devices that play for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight hours. It's all because of neodymium-iron-boron magnets. The little motors in there essentially run off very powerful magnets.
If you look at the relative strength of the magnets — here are your old Alnico magnets from the 1940s, different grades of Alnico. There's a ferrite magnet, a ceramic magnet, then samarium cobalt, then neodymium-iron-boron. The size of the motor scales as the strength — actually as the square of the strength of the magnetic field. So that's pretty impressive. Not a structural material, but some of the materials-property improvements have been very dramatic.
§5. Optical glass, jet engines, and material limits [28:26]
Here's another material property, the most dramatic I know of: the optical loss of glass. Egyptian glass was pretty hard to see through. Phoenician glass was better. Glass got better and better. This is decibels per kilometer. Then all of a sudden, when they got to glass fiber and were sending laser light across the Atlantic Ocean or Pacific Ocean, the glass fibers essentially have fantastic transmission. It's gone up by like twelve or thirteen orders of magnitude in transmissivity.
You can look at the operating temperature of jet engines. This is a plot of the firing temperature of engines. These are structural materials. Back in the 1950s, a man named Whittle invented the turbine engine. He was a British engineer. In the late '30s he had this idea for a turbine engine. He's sort of famous for the quote — I don't have it with me right now — that it's a good thing he didn't know the conventional wisdom at the time that what he was doing was impossible, because otherwise he never would have tried. The materials they had were things like stainless steels, and then they had some nickel-based alloys — and then Mar-M is Martin Marietta, Udimet, Rene is General Electric, IN is International Nickel, GTD-111 is kind of interesting — that big heavy turbine blade may or may not be GTD-111.
They don't oxidize. When I was 19 years old, between my freshman and sophomore years, I got a job working in the Naval Air Rework Facility in Norfolk, Virginia rebuilding engines as an engineering student that summer. The TF30 engines were coming back from Vietnam, and we had to rebuild them and send them back. The engines had 500 hours on them — that was the lifetime of an engine, 500 hours, and you had to rebuild it every 500 hours. Today, 30,000 hours on a commercial engine before you have to rebuild it. So it's not just operating temperature, it's operating lifetime that has improved over this time, in terms of oxidation resistance and other things. From 1972 to 1990 or 1995, you're up to 30,000 hours. We went from better and better alloys to single crystals — single-crystal turbine blades that cost six thousand dollars a blade. You've got a hundred blades on a disc, so six hundred thousand dollars for a replacement set of blades on one disc in one engine. That's why the engines cost five or ten million dollars — it's the blades. Engine companies make maybe twenty percent of their volume on the blades, but forty percent of the profit is on the blades. The vanes are the most valuable part.
The firing temperature went up even higher. Does anybody know why the firing temperature went up faster than the material capability temperature? The firing temperature now is above the melting temperature of the alloy. I should have brought this in, I'll bring it in maybe tomorrow. They put holes in the blades and they blow thousand-degree-Fahrenheit air through, the compressor air. So it creates a boundary layer that insulates the edge of the material from the very hot firing gases. Thermodynamically the higher the temperature of your firing gas, the more efficient the engine can be. They were always limited before, basically, by the properties of the material. Then they got better, and they increased the firing temperature by essentially using a boundary layer cooling against the surface. If you ever lost your cooling gas, your engine would melt. But you can't really lose your compressor, because your compressor is part of the engine. If the engine's spinning, it's going to be compressing air. So you always get your hot compressed air at a thousand degrees.
I served on a committee of the National Research Council about twelve years ago, and we were supposed to be telling the Air Force how to spend the three hundred million dollars they have each year for improved jet engines. There were two of us who were materials people, and we had people on there from Pratt & Whitney and General Electric — these were the people who had headed up the design of the last major engine for those companies. The first day, forty of us in this room, and they said let's go around, everybody introduce yourself and tell us what you think this committee ought to be doing. I was going to explain that we've really reached the limit of our materials, we really can't get higher-temperature materials, because everything else oxidizes above 2200 degrees Fahrenheit. The guy sitting next to me happened to be the guy from Pratt & Whitney who had designed one or two of their major engines. He spoke first, and he said, we've really gone as far as we can in our design, and we really need better materials. I was going to say the exact opposite, which I did say and explain. He had convinced the board of directors of Pratt & Whitney to spend 18 million dollars of their own profit — niobium melts at very high temperatures, but it oxidizes very easily. He wanted to come up with an oxidation-resistant niobium. I did my doctoral thesis on niobium-aluminum, and I knew that was a fool's errand. He was the engine designer and he knew he needed higher-temperature engine materials, so he convinced them to spend 18 million dollars of their own profits — this wasn't government money — on developing a better engine material. I knew it was a fool's errand. And he admitted, we spent 18 million dollars and we got nothing. I could have predicted that. He maybe should have talked to a materials engineer at Pratt & Whitney before he had gone off and done that.
I do want to talk about the limits to material properties. I had talked before about how material properties are basically controlled by the strength of the atomic bonds. Here's a picture from 3.091-type stuff: two atoms coming together, some radius — radius in angstroms. You've got one atom stationary, and you bring the other atom closer, and the energy potential well looks like this. This is sometimes called the Lennard-Jones potential, from the 1920s, from the British physical chemist or chemical physicist — there's a difference between a physical chemist and a chemical physicist, but we won't go into that right now. So here's the shape of the bonding curve between two atoms. The depth of the curve is the energy; the first derivative is the force versus displacement, which is strength; and the second derivative is the modulus.
If we're talking about material properties, there are limits. Certain bonds — the strongest bonds, let's call it carbon rather than silicon-oxygen — diamond has a modulus of 60 million psi; there is nothing any greater. Tungsten is about 50 million; molybdenum is about 40 million; steel is about 30 million. So you get half of the max with steel at a much lower cost than diamond. Strength: the maximum strength based on that Lennard-Jones potential is about three million psi; you can't get any more. In fact we get about ten times less because of dislocations or brittleness. Toughness, which is the measure of brittleness — the energy of fracture as opposed to strength as the force of fracture — toughness is the energy of fracture. For structural materials, the toughest material is about three hundred megapascals root meter, which also is the same as ksi root inch. And the cost — pay whatever you want; whatever someone will pay, you can charge. Who pays the most per pound for materials? Golfers. You can sell a new material to a golfer at any price. Golfers tend to be men greater than 50 years old who have been successful, and they'll pay anything to rub their colleagues' noses in it. So you can sell anything to a golfer.
There are limits. I put this up before, strength versus relative cost. This is an Ashby plot. You just can't go any higher. The strength of ceramics is in a dashed line, because they're brittle. The ones that are not brittle, like some of your engineered composites, very pricey. The low cost at high strength turns out to be glasses, like fiberglass, mild steel, cast iron, crushed stone. Any questions? That's sort of a review of where we've been. I'll do some fracture mechanics later, but I want to talk about competition between materials.
§6. The billion-ton-per-year club and container competition [40:19]
Before I do that, let me put one thing up. I talked about the six materials that are in the billion-ton-per-year club. Iron at about a billion tons a year. Stone at about six billion tons a year, which could be magnesium, calcium, potassium — no, potassium's not — magnesium, calcium, aluminum, silicon, and oxygen, basically stone in various ways. Carbon's not here, because polymers — if it was carbon, I'd put hydrogen in here too, for hydrocarbons. Cement is here because it's basically magnesium and calcium carbonate, and that's 2.2 billion tons per year. There's only six elements on the periodic table, or seven if I include oxygen, that are in the billion-tons-per-year category of structural materials. There's only a few materials we really use a lot of, and the reason is cost, unless you're in the aerospace industry.
There's also a healthy competition among materials. [Tom produces an assortment of beverage and food containers.] Beverage containers, or food containers. We have steel — you might want some chili. The problem with steel is corrosion. This is painted on the inside, either with a white coating, a paint, or a clear coating that you don't really see. It may be coated in some cases with a little bit of tin. A very little bit of tin will defeat some of the corrosion. We have composites — very light. That's empty, I won't throw this; when this actually still has potato chips in it. It's a composite: plastic top, cellulose walls, steel bottom. I didn't have a drink box, but I did have aluminum. The problem with aluminum is cost. Did you know that thirty years ago when I went to Japan, the soda cans were all made out of steel? That was because the steel companies controlled so much of the Japanese economy that they influenced the beverage manufacturers to use steel cans as opposed to aluminum cans. Classic. Here is real junk food, spaghetti and meatballs, Chef Boyardee, probably plastic inside. Water bottles. I did have a glass thing — this is just a glass container for freshening up the air, Air Wick. Here's ceramic, a tea mug. We don't have to pass all these around, but they all compete.
Why do they all compete? Each one of them is a huge business. Steel can only really make it in canned goods like chili, or Campbell Soup, because of cost. It's the cheapest, and you can paint them, and they'll hold up as long as the food will hold up, or probably longer. Aluminum, because of formability — you'd have a hard time drawing a steel can that deep, with a depth-to-width ratio like that. But aluminum is expensive. Nonetheless, about forty percent of the aluminum industry is packaging materials, which means aluminum foil and cans, and it's mostly cans. If it weren't for the can business, Alcoa, Novelis, and Pechiney would be out of business. Glass: wonderful material to store food in, because it's clean and you can wash it, but it weighs a lot and it's brittle. If you go to a brewery making ten million barrels a year, the glass factory will be bordering right on the brewery, because you can't afford with these brittle bottles to manufacture them even ten miles away. You manufacture them right next door, so they can come off the assembly line and transport right over to the factory next door. There are a number of industries that have to be side by side like that.
Plastic: the problem with plastic is permeability. In some cases, like our drink boxes — I didn't have a composite drink box, but it turns out the composites are sometimes seven layers, just to have a simple fruit juice in one of those little rectangular boxes. Seven-layer composite. It's got foil, several different types of plastic, paper, and adhesive layers in between. It's incredible. But even those can compete. The permeability of plastic — it's not really a big deal. The strength sometimes — you need strength in these things. You've seen the Nestle Poland Spring water bottles or whatever, and you kind of wonder if they'll hold the strength to be able to drink the water. They've made those about as thin as they possibly can. The aluminum cans are actually designed on a supercomputer, for forming and thinness, and they take advantage of the pressurized contents. The 2-liter Coke bottles — they've got plenty of strength as long as they've got CO2 pressure in them. You can pick them up no problem. Some of those things, particularly the cheaper brands, you pop the thing, release the pressure, and try to pick them up and it slips out of your hand. You can't get a grip because it collapses. So the cost of the plastics is an issue, as well as permeability. And then we have plastic cups, wooden cups, styrofoam, paper, plastic bowls. They all compete with each other.
§7. The innovator's dilemma — transformer steels and Boeing [47:52]
One of them gets a little bit of an advantage by some new processing productivity improvement, and the others will spend tens of millions of dollars to improve things a little bit more. Why? Because you're talking billion-dollar businesses. Just because someone in one area where you have lots of different products that compete gets a slight advantage over someone else, the other people don't want to just die and go away. They want to compete, and they'll invest more money. That's what happened in transformer steels. For motors we used to use just carbon steel, and then we got better in the 1940s and 1950s and had oriented silicon iron steels that had lower magnetic losses. Then someone discovered Metglas foil, an amorphous metal foil, which had the lowest magnetic losses of any material in the world. They built a 40-million-dollar plant down in South Carolina to make this stuff. But the steel companies that were making the silicon iron for the transformers for the utilities decided not to give up that business. Even though the Metglas foil had ten times lower magnetic losses, it was like five times more expensive. They improved their silicon iron that they had not really improved on for about forty years, so now the two are in competition again. Continual competition, continual improvement in properties, mostly driven by what the market requires.
If you've got the market, you don't care too much about inventing a new material. You're happy just going along and not innovating and waiting for someone else to do the innovation. Most big companies are too busy not innovating. Are people familiar with Clayton Christensen's book The Innovator's Dilemma? Donny, you must know — at Legos, right? You haven't heard of Innovator's Dilemma? So fifteen years ago Clayton Christensen at Harvard Business School wrote a book called The Innovator's Dilemma, and he pointed out that big companies are so busy just maintaining the product they've got and trying to improve their high-end business — let's take Boeing as an example, since you are Boeing people. They wanted to make an all-composite aircraft. The 777 originally was going to be all composite, until they started pricing it. They said, oops, we'll never build this one in the next ten years, so they decided it was going to be thirty percent composite and seventy percent aluminum, rather than one hundred percent aluminum. But then when they got to the 787, they said we're really going to do it now, and they did build a 787, and it's about, what, eighty percent composite? It's a huge change. The V-22 Osprey in the 1990s, Bell Boeing, that was a hundred percent composite because it had to be. There wasn't a choice. You're going to pay 60 million dollars for an aircraft that holds 16 people, as opposed to paying 250 million for an aircraft that holds 250 people. So the economics are different for a military aircraft and a commercial aircraft, but you can do it. There have been all kinds of headaches whenever you're the innovator. Mostly people let other smaller companies eat at the bottom of their business, and that's the innovator's dilemma.
Do you invest your money on improving your existing product, or do you protect the bottom of your market? I'll probably talk about that some when we get to the steel business and what happened to the big steel companies. They basically wanted to protect the more profitable parts of their business and they let the less profitable parts go, and eventually those people doing the less profitable part ate their lunch. That's the innovator's dilemma. Do you innovate, do you work on the bottom of your business, or do you work on the top of your business? It turns out you have to do both. So I'll see you tomorrow.