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Welding Metallurgy Spring 2014 Session · 8 sections 5 cases · Watch on YouTube ↗ all files
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§1. From cast iron to steel: Bessemer and the early sources [00:03]

§1.p1

If there are no questions on what we've been doing thus far, I decided that based on some of the questions that were asked, I probably ought to step back. Some of you already know some of the terminology of steels, but I ought to go through a little bit more. So I was hoping to start weldability of steels, but I think maybe I'll just spend a little bit of time on terminology of steels.

§1.p2

We talked before about cast iron, and cast iron was basically all we had except for a few very rare steels before 1856. In 1856 Sir Henry Bessemer learned that if you preheated the air coming into the furnace, you could melt steel by burning coal in air. You get temperatures of 2500°F if you preheated the air. If you don't preheat the air, the maximum temperature you can get is about 2000°F, and that won't melt steel. Henry Bessemer invented the Bessemer converter, which blew the air in while the exiting air was going out and sort of preheated the air coming in, and he could get a temperature sufficient to melt steel. We had cast iron because cast iron melts at a lower temperature than pure iron.

§1.p3

This is the iron-carbon phase diagram. You've all got a copy of it, even if this thing's sort of washed out. Here's the melting point of cast iron, which according to this fine print is 1154°C. And the melting point of steel is about 1530 or 1538, it says on this diagram. Okay, so we don't have to worry too much about that.

§1.p4

But there was steel before 1856. Anybody know where the steel came from? There were two primary sources of steel. One: meteorites from space that landed on the earth were actually a lot of iron-nickel alloys with fairly low carbon, and if someone found a meteorite they could hammer it into a sword. That's why steel swords were fairly rare. The other thing is you could take cast iron and beat it and fold it over and forge it just like kneading dough, almost, and keep burning the carbon out. And if you don't burn all the iron out at the same time, you'll end up with some steel — lower carbon than 2 or 3% or 4% carbon, and you'll end up here in the steel side.

§2. Carbon grades, mild steel, and the cost of a modern mill [02:41]

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There are three types of steel: low carbon, medium carbon, and high carbon, as we call them today. There's no firm dividing line, but typically low carbon is something less than about 0.25%, less than a quarter percent. Medium carbon is about 0.25 to 0.6, and high carbon is greater than 0.6. You never go above about 1 or 1.1% carbon in steel. You actually can go higher if you look in this region, but you don't usually go much above 1%. You can get 2% in here, but there's only some tool steels and other things that have that much carbon.

§2.p2

Together, somewhere in the low and medium, is often called in a generic form mild steel. Someone mentioned mild steel. Well, mild steel is just slang for mostly a low-carbon steel, but it could be pushing into medium carbon steel. Basically mild steel is something that's easy to form, it's easy to weld, and we're going to learn that's because it's difficult to harden. It usually is in a particular crystal structure which we call ferrite.

§2.p3

Someone else mentioned hot rolled versus cold rolled. Sometimes you say, well, I have a piece of cold rolled steel, what does that mean? It means it came from a particular mill that can take hot rolled band, they call it, which is a great big roll of like quarter-inch-thick steel. Let me back up. Steel is made by casting, in the old days, like 20-inch-thick ingots, and rolling them out. They call it breakdown rolling, and you forge it down to about four or five inches thick. Then you go through a hot mill, and a hot mill today might cost you a billion dollars in today's terms. A whole steel mill today might cost you $15 billion. And that's why no one has built a steel mill anywhere in the world since the 1960s. No company has built a new steel mill. There've always been countries that have built new steel mills. No company can afford the investment in their own steel mill.

§2.p4

The last one was Bethlehem Steel in Burns Harbor, Indiana. Now it's part of ArcelorMittal, because Beth's bankrupt ever since I went to work with them. Worked for them, they went bankrupt. I guess I did it, I don't know. But Burns Harbor was the last company-built steel mill. All the others were basically built with government subsidies or whatever, because it's just too big an investment.

§2.p5

We have the same types of things in the semiconductor industry. Intel might build a $15 billion fab plant, but there's all kinds of politics and government subsidies that go with it. Boeing might build, might start a new aircraft, and it's a fifteen- or twenty-billion-dollar proposition. There's all kinds of subsidies that come with those things too.

§3. Hot rolling, cold rolling, and bar stock [06:05]

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In any case, steel mills are fairly expensive propositions. A hot rolling mill is about a billion-dollar facility, and you take these slabs, you put them in a furnace, you get them up to about 1100°C. So 1100 centigrade is up in this region. You just put them through — 1100 centigrade, 1200 centigrade, the stuff rolls like butter. Now, the steel rolls that are rolling this are cold, and they're rolling hot material. So you have to be careful about how you handle things, and you may water cool the rolls so they don't get too hot. But basically you can break it down to about a quarter of an inch thick, and that's hot rolled strip. You put it in a coil while it's still hot, let it cool, and you call it hot rolled band. B-A-N-D.

§3.p2

You take the hot rolled band and you take it over to another mill, which might be a one-and-a-half-billion-dollar proposition today, which is called a cold rolling mill. Now you're going to put it through at room temperature through these big massive rolls, and it'll be going through there at 60 miles an hour. It'll be not just one set of rolls — great big rolls — there'll be about six or seven rolls lined up one after the other. So it comes in a quarter of an inch and it might come out much thinner. Cold rolling should give you a nice uniform through-the-thickness hardness, in general. But you can do other things to get local hardness, surface hardening, and I'm going to talk about that.

§3.p3

You got to remember, I told you we know more about steel than any other material in the world, including silicon. That's because it's a huge industry and it's had a lot of people working on it. So that's some of the terminology. Anybody have any questions on that terminology?

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Student: [Question about hot roll versus cold roll for bar stock.]

§3.p5

When you say hot roll and cold roll — now if you're talking bar stock, I can have half-inch bar stock like this stuff. [Tom holds up a piece of bar stock.] I can have something like this, half-inch bar stock, that could be cold rolled, because the mill to squeeze that could do it cold even though it's a half an inch. It might have started out with bar stock of an inch or inch-and-a-half square — round or square — and a mill can have enough separating force to squeeze this cold down to this. But if you're talking big white plate 5 feet wide, we just don't have mills big enough to have the force necessary to squeeze that plate if it's more than a quarter of an inch thick. So if we're talking plate material, plate comes off the hot roll, sheet comes off the cold roll. It's a question of thickness. When you get to bar stock, you can be a little bit thicker in the cold rolled.

§3.p6

Hot rolled comes out annealed, and so the strength is 200 megapascals, 30, 35 KSI. Cold rolled, you can come out with different hardnesses, and we sell it in the anneal condition, we sell it in the half hard condition or the hard condition. You can get 100 KSI out of a low carbon steel in the cold roll condition, whereas you can only get about 35 — one-third of that — in the hot roll condition. And it's a function of thickness coming out of the mill.

§4. Ferrite, austenite, martensite, bainite — and how they were named [09:58]

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We can also transform the steel by quenching it and tempering and doing other things. Ferrite — how did we get the term ferrite? Well, there was a petrographer. Anybody know what a petrographer is? Any geologist here? A petrographer is someone who polishes rocks and looks at them in a microscope to look for the different minerals in the rock. For example, granite is composed of three different minerals: feldspar, quartz, and something else. I can't remember the third, I'm not a geologist.

§4.p2

Henry Sorby in England was a petrographer. He said, what if I do this with a piece of steel? If you polish a piece of steel — you grind it smooth and polish it — you'll end up with a mirror, doesn't look like much of anything. He had the bright idea to etch it with some acid, and when he did that, it sort of goes frosty when you look at it with your eye. Put it in the microscope, and you can see grain structure, you can see the individual crystals. Being a petrographer, being a geologist, he said, well, it's an iron-based steel, and what do you call things that are iron? You use the Latin name of ferrite. And you put I-T-E in to make it a mineral name. So this was ferrite. Low carbon steel, the alpha form, which is from the phase diagram over here, is called ferrite, and it's unremarkable other than the grain size.

§4.p3

Then later, people had ways to heat the steel up and do other things, and they learned about this face-centered cubic phase at higher temperatures, and they named that austenite, again using the geology-type stuff, after a British metallurgist called Roberts-Austen.

§4.p4

People had known for centuries you could heat the steel up into this FCC, quench it in oil, water — they didn't know about air quenching at the time, they didn't have the alloys — you could quench it in oil or water, or a nice Nubian slave. One of the things the people in the Mideast used to like to do is heat the steel up into its thousand degrees centigrade, and they liked to quench it in a live slave. Because it would give virility to the steel. Didn't give much virility to the slave, but nonetheless, you can quench it in blood too if you want. Okay, we don't do it much anymore.

§4.p5

So they ended up finally calling the hard phase martensite, after — I think he was Swedish — Martens was a metallurgist in the 1890s or so. And then bainite is a hard form of steel formed with a different crystal structure. While martensite — if I were to take martensite, I could take a piece of chalk and snap it into two, and it's brittle. So is martensite in the as-quenched condition. Bainite in the as-quenched condition, you can bend it into a U, and it has almost the same strength as the martensite. It's because of a different type of transformation.

§4.p6

Bainite was not discovered or understood until about 1930, and Edgar Bain was a metallurgist at US Steel Research Laboratories, which later were called Bain Laboratories. Bainite is named after Bain. You can quench in oil, water, or just let it cool in the air, which they call an air quench. If you do that to martensite, it'll be glass brittle. Actually, it'll be about 10 times tougher than glass, but it's still pretty brittle. You hit it with a hammer and it'll shatter.

§4.p7

In fact, I think Mike Tarkanian does that in the forge down there. He'll take a piece of steel and he'll heat it up and quench it and show that before you quench it, it'll be nice and soft, and he can heat it up and bend it 90 degrees or 180 degrees. Then he quenches it in water and he hits it — and he makes sure nobody's looking that direction, everybody's got safety glasses on — he can shatter the bar. Because martensite in the untempered condition is extremely brittle. I would say glass brittle, but it's not really glass brittle, it's about 10 times tougher than glass. In fact, cast iron is about 10 times tougher than glass, even though we think of gray cast iron as a very brittle material, and it is. It's just not as brittle as glass.

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Student: [Question about cast iron pipes and pots.]

§4.p9

Cast iron pipes, pots is gray cast iron. If I took a sledgehammer to a cast iron pot — put your safety glasses on, wear your shin guards and other things, because shrapnel can go flying. If you want to break one — well, you probably haven't seen it, but I've been there when they're digging up an old cast iron pipe in the street. They just get down there with sledgehammers and wham, and break it apart. Because it's too hard to cut with a saw. It's easier to cut steel than it is to cut cast iron with all the hard particles and impurities. Good soft cast iron cuts like butter compared to steel. But the old dirty stuff with all the impurities has got hard particles and just dulls saw blades. They often use carbide saw blades to cut cast iron, believe it or not, for cast iron pipe. But big 36-inch diameter water mains, when they have a break or something, they just go in there with the sledgehammers and these guys beat it to death. Wear your goggles and stuff, because when it breaks it will shatter. It won't shatter like glass because it's tougher than glass, but it'll give off big brittle fractures.

§5. Anneal, normalize, and the transformation curve [16:33]

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Okay, so there's quenched and tempered. What else do we have? We have anneal, which I can take any of these steels and I can heat them up to just above this little line right here into the austenitic region and hold them there, and then cool them down slowly. Don't quench them in oil or water, and I will end up with an anneal microstructure, and it will be nice and soft, about 30 to 35 KSI yield depending on the carbon content. It can be 60 to 90 KSI tensile.

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I can also normalize it. If I do that, I take it just above this line, heat it up, hold it there until it's uniform in temperature, and then I force-air-cool it depending on the size of it. Because I'm going from FCC to BCC, if I cool it a little bit quicker than just letting it sit in the air over an hour or two, I can get a very fine grain size. And in most metals, fine grain means higher strength.

§5.p3

If I start looking at a steel transformation book — and I'm sure you all have these, I had this at home until I brought it in, little light reading in the evening — here's a transformation curve for steel. It's log time in seconds versus linear temperature. I'm going to take it up here above 1200 Fahrenheit. So I take it up to 1300, 1350 Fahrenheit. This doesn't even tell me the type of steel, but anyway. I start cooling it. What the metallurgist would do is they would quench it into a bath, a very thin strip, and hold it at some temperature. The bath might be a bath of hot lead at some temperature, and they measure the transformation. They really couldn't get things less than about 2 seconds because the thing won't quench that quickly. So that's the dashed line. This is the beginning of transformation, the 50% line is this very barely visible line here, and the end of the transformation is here. You get this characteristic curve behavior.

§5.p4

If you look at this temperature of transformation, this is the beginning of the transformation from face-centered cubic to body-centered cubic, there's the 50% point, and here's the end point, 100% transformation to body-centered cubic. This curve is called a sigmoidal curve. If you're a metallurgist, you can study this for a whole semester, just that one curve, and nucleation and growth kinetics. Ooh, how exciting! I had to do it once. But if you look at lots of different types of steels, you see that for a 1060 or 1080 steel, these things are transforming in less than one or two seconds. If I add some alloy content, this is a 1035 steel, and it's pushed over — the C-curve is pushed over to longer times, but I'm still dealing with times of less than 10 seconds for the transformation.

§5.p5

If I get clever, I can start adding alloy elements. If I'm adding molybdenum — this is zero molybdenum, this is 0.15, 0.38, 0.5 molybdenum — you can see the nose of the curve is getting pushed over from something that's about 2 seconds all the way over to 20 seconds. I can slow down the reaction by a factor of 10 by adding half a percent molybdenum. So that's what I've done with 4130. I can't remember — I think it's chrome that they added to the 4130 to slow down the transformation, so I can get all these wonderful phases that I would like, as a metallurgist.

§6. 4130 steel and the Pennsylvania bicycle handlebar case [17:51]

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So let's tell a story, it's time to tell a story. You're starting to doze off with all this technical stuff. Let's talk about bicycle frames. Good old steel bicycle frames. We're not talking high-end titanium bikes or composite bikes like all of you like to play with. Let's just talk about the good old, go to Walmart or Costco, steel frame bike. Could be a mountain bike, could be a tricycle or whatever.

§6.p2

4130 steel, to give you an example. 4130 steel is also used for things sometimes called aircraft tubing. The 30 tells you I've got 0.3 carbon plus or minus about 0.004 or so. It could be 0.26 to 0.34 carbon, because they can't hit it perfectly at the steel mill every time. The 41 tells me something about the alloy content. In this case, it'll tell me something about the manganese that's in the steel. This particular steel I think has a little chrome in it, like a third of a percent chrome. So this is the alloy designation family, and here is the carbon level. I stick them together: 4130. This is the American Iron and Steel Institute designation. It's been around for 100 years. You can have 4140, you can have a 4135.

§6.p3

4130 is sort of garden-variety high-strength steel. Tubing comes in three forms if you look at the spec: quenched and tempered, annealed, and normalized. Quenched and tempered, it might have a strength of 100 to 120 KSI yield — I didn't look it up — not much higher tensile strength. Annealed, it might be 70 KSI. Normalized, it'll probably be 90 to 100.

§6.p4

This is something that might be three-quarters of an inch in diameter, 1 inch diameter, might have a wall thickness of 1/16 of an inch — think of a millimeter, 2 millimeters. You can make bicycles out of it. It's relatively easy to weld. Some people would call this a mild steel. It's not really a mild steel, it's an alloy steel. It's got some alloy content to give us some extra strength and allow you to quench it and temper it, because even in 2 mm thickness, a carbon steel might not always get quenched well enough to be hardened all the way through. You need something to slow down the transformation, because the thing doesn't cool immediately when you put it in water. When you first put it in the water, you get boiling heat transfer on the surface, and that's not very effective. It takes seconds for this to occur, and I don't always have seconds.

§6.p5

So there was this kid in eastern Pennsylvania, and he was 21 years old, and they liked to do jumps with bicycles. If you've been watching the Olympics and you see the people doing the slopes — these people are idiots. Going up 300 feet in the air, doing four flips in the air. There was actually an article in the paper, one of these guys came down on their head and they're in trouble. They're dead, or worse.

§6.p6

Well, this kid was doing flips on a bike, and he could ride the bike and put one of the pedals alongside of the rail. So if you see the people in these things, and they take their snowboard or whatever and they slide down these rails up at the top — he could do this with a bicycle. And he could flip the bike and do a 360° turn in the air. Except one time he was doing it and the handlebars came loose, he landed on his head, and now he's a paraplegic.

§6.p7

So I get the handlebars. 4130 steel. Pretty sure it was normalized — wasn't special-strength bicycle steels, they're all about the same strength. This was a high-end bicycle. This was a jumping bike. He had paid a lot of money for this special handlebar, but it was just a regular old tube that slips in. The handlebar is going this way, the tube here, and it fractured. It was a ductile fracture, except it had some fatigue early on. And it was nice chrome plated, of course, to make it look nice. The problem was, the final fracture was ductile, it wasn't brittle. But the beginning fracture was brittle. What happened — someone electroplated it. When you electroplate the steel, you introduce hydrogen. The steel's embrittled. If that thing gets shipped to him and whoever did it didn't bake out the hydrogen, the steel's embrittled, and it starts getting stressed. Within a few days or a few weeks, you have a brittle material, and it can start a crack. It started a crack, and it grew by fatigue until it was like 60% of the way around. Then on one jump, the thing just broke. The final failure was nice and ductile, the steel bent over and everything. Unfortunately the first part wasn't.

§6.p8

There was nothing wrong with the steel originally from the steel mill, but there was something from the people in this little mom-and-pop shop in California who electroplated it. They didn't know that you had to bake out the chromium plate to get the hydrogen out. They just sent it to a plating shop, didn't tell them to bake it. Plating shop didn't say, oh, we should bake this. They should have, but they did it, sold it, and they gave him — paraplegic.

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Student: [Question about the bake-out spec.]

§6.p10

The ASM spec says you must go from the electroplating bath to the oven within 1 to 4 hours depending on the carbon content of the steel. Higher carbon steels you've got to get it in within one hour. Lower carbon steels can tolerate more hydrogen, you might take four hours.

§6.p11

Just an air oven. 375 degrees Fahrenheit typically. They do it for either one hour in the oven, four hours in the oven, or 23 hours in the oven. Anybody know why they do 23 hours in the oven? Because you put it in at one time one day, you take it out an hour earlier the next day, and you put another batch in. It gives you an hour to change batches. That's why they say 23. But that's what the spec says, 23 hours. Where'd they come up with that? Well, if you keep doing these every day and you made it 24 hours, eventually you get into quitting time, and people would have to stay over. So you want to keep using your furnace, so they make it 23.

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Student: [Question about annealing versus normalizing.]

§6.p13

Annealing basically cools slower. As I remember, in annealing you heat it up to a temperature above 900°C and cool it, whereas in normalization, you heat it up just above this line. In normalization, you actually force-air cool it. You're getting better, faster cooling than annealing. Sometimes you actually anneal and just cool it in the oven, in the furnace. It depends on the thickness of the part. Basically in annealing, you're trying to get what we call a dead soft material. Normalized, you're trying to get a fine grain size. The purpose of the heat treatment is different, and you adjust your heating temperature and your cooling time in normalizing to get fine grain size. In annealing, you don't worry as much about the grain size, you're looking for softness. So they have different names.

§7. The Peregrine Falcon: 4130 tubing, kit aircraft, and the Nevada desert crash [30:45]

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Okay, so there's some bicycle tubing, and we use that same type of tubing to build small aircraft. We have for about 80 years. That same 4130 tubing. If you go look at the aircraft they were building, that they put canvas around in the 1930s to keep the wind out, or you go out to some small little place even today, there are people — you can buy kits of 4130 tubing and build your own aircraft. As long as you don't take any passengers, you don't have to get special permission from the FAA. The Federal Aviation Administration will allow you to kill yourself or your family, but no one else. If you're going to build it for other people to use, you have to follow all kinds of construction rules. But if you're building it for yourself, it's okay to kill yourself.

§7.p2

I'll tell you another story. Some people would like to own an F-15, go Mach 2 or something like that, and they're fairly rich. But the government won't sell you an F-15 without all kinds of export controls. Some movie stars and others have enough money, they could buy the engine. There was this one company — I don't know where they incorporated, but they were doing their tests in the Nevada desert, and it was called Pereg— Green Falcon [Peregrine Falcon]. I think they were selling these aircraft for like $10 million. Basically you just buy the engine from Pratt and Whitney or whoever, and it was the same engine basically as the commercial version. I don't know if I want to say it's the commercial version, because this one would go Mach 2. It was a military engine, but it was sort of a commercialized version of the military engine that's in the F-15.

§7.p3

They would take some 4130 tubing or some aluminum tubing, and they put a seat in front of it, maybe just a little bit above where the air comes in. Then they put a skin around it and some controls, and they would sell it to you for, I can't remember, $10 or $15 million. But you had to come to Reno, Nevada, and you had to assemble half of it yourself. Not the engine, but the airframe. There were some very famous movie stars who had bought this thing, and they were scheduled to come to this facility, and they were going to have some mechanics there and welders, and the movie stars would be able to buy their own [Peregrine] Falcon so they could go Mach 2 and get the thrill. Because what's money.

§7.p4

The first [Peregrine] Falcon, it blew up over the Nevada desert at 40,000 feet, and the test pilot was killed. The second one — I got a call at 6:00 a.m. one morning and a guy said, Tom, I want you to look at a [Peregrine] Falcon that crashed. This was the owner. He was now the test pilot. I said, sure, when do you want to bring it by? He says, I'm down here at 77 Mass Ave right now. I said, okay, I'll meet you in the lab. So I came over here — right across from my office, upstairs, the fourth floor back then, 20 years ago — and he brings in part of the fuselage, the tail structure. He tells me the story that this thing had crashed over the Nevada desert at 40,000 feet while they were doing the test flight. They found wreckage strewn over 50 miles of the desert, because you're that high going that fast. He said he just brought in a part that he could bring in by hand, it's aluminum so it's light. He said, I want you to tell me why it crashed. I said, excuse me? How do I know that the bad part is here? He said, well, just look at it. So I looked at it, I said, I don't see anything except overload.

§7.p5

He started telling me this theory that they thought maybe, at those speeds, you get into flutter. The wings start vibrating at supersonic speeds, and they thought maybe he got into flutter. They had these little lead weights on the ends of the wings. He brought me the tail wing, not the main wings, and they thought maybe one of those lead weights had come off and they had gotten into flutter because it didn't have the dampening weight. I said, well, why didn't you bring me that? He said, well, I can.

§7.p6

About 6 weeks later they shipped me the end of the wing — both wings — and one of them, they had just glued about a one-pound lead weight onto a little steel arm. Wasn't much bigger than that. On one of them was still glued on, the other one was a very poor adhesive bond, and the lead weight wasn't there. I said, good theory. Why hadn't they put a screw in to hold the lead weight — if you want to adhesively bond it afterwards, fine, but all you had to do is put a screw in it. So the FAA will let you kill yourself if you have enough money, and you can go Mach 2. And all those people who had put in — I think there was a $5 million down payment, that's how they were getting this stuff built — but all those people lost their down payment. It was just petty cash for them anyway. Okay, so enough stories for today.

§8. Back to composition: manganese and the sulfur problem [36:28]

§8.p1

Let's go into some of the other things on steels. We did talk about — there's some questions about the composition of steels, and I said steel is an alloy of iron and carbon. We talked about, you need manganese, and they learned you need manganese to tie up the sulfur, because you always have some sulfur and phosphorus impurity. And what I did is I brought the manganese phase diagram for all of you.

Cases referenced

  • Eastern Pennsylvania bicycle handlebar failure §6.p5

    Hydrogen embrittlement from chrome electroplating without proper bake-out. 21-year-old rider doing jumping stunts on a 4130 steel jumping bike; handlebars fracture mid-jump. Crack initiated brittle (hydrogen embrittlement), grew by fatigue to ~60% of the cross-section, then ductile final failure. Plating shop in California didn't bake out the hydrogen per the ASM spec (1–4 hours from plating bath to oven; 375°F for 23 hours).

  • Private Mach 2.5 aircraft crash and wing flutter failure (Peregrine Falcon) §7.p2

    Kit-aircraft Mach 2 program in Nevada desert; sold engines from Pratt & Whitney military jet derivative with movie-star customers assembling the airframe themselves under FAA self-build rules. First aircraft blown up at 40,000 ft, test pilot killed. Second aircraft crashed; Tom called in by the owner (the second test pilot). Theory: supersonic wing flutter from a poorly adhesive-bonded lead damping weight detaching. No mechanical fastener backing up the adhesive bond.

  • Bethlehem Steel Burns Harbor §2.p4

    Last company-built (non-government-subsidized) steel mill in the world. Burns Harbor, Indiana. Now part of ArcelorMittal. Tom worked there. Anchors the larger thesis that steel-mill greenfield construction is no longer commercially viable.

  • MIT teaching forge demonstration §4.p7

    Mike Tarkanian's classroom demonstration: heat a steel bar, bend it 180°, quench in water, shatter with a hammer — showing untempered martensite brittleness. Used to anchor the "10× tougher than glass but still brittle" framing.

  • Cast iron water main breakage practice §4.p9

    Field-observation aside on how cast iron water mains are cut: sledgehammers, not saws. Tom describes 36-inch diameter water main repairs as a brittle-fracture demonstration. Used to anchor the "gray cast iron is brittle but tougher than glass" framing. ## Figures referenced (recurring numeric anchors, not cases)

Layer 2 — cleanup edit
p1 00:03

So if there's no questions on what we've been doing thus far, um, I decided that based on some of the questions that were asked, that I probably ought to step back. Some of you already know some of the terminology of steels, but I ought to go through a little bit more. So I was hoping to start weldability of steels, but I think maybe I'll just spend a little bit of time on terminology of steels.

p2 00:28

We talked before about cast iron, and cast iron was basically all we had except for a few very rare steels before 1856. In 1856 Sir Henry Bessemer learned that if you preheated the air coming into the furnace, you could melt steel by burning coal in air. You get temperatures of 2500°F if you preheated the air. If you don't preheat the air, the maximum temperature you can get is about 2,000°F, and that won't melt steel. But Henry Bessemer invented the Bessemer converter, which basically blew the air in while the exiting air was going out and sort of preheated the air coming in, and he could get a temperature sufficient to melt steel. In any case, we had cast iron because cast iron melts at a lower temperature than pure iron.

p3 01:30

This is the iron-carbon phase diagram. You've all got a copy of it, even if this thing's sort of washed out. Here's the melting point of cast iron, which according to this fine print is 1154°C. And the melting point of steel is about 1530 or 1538, it says on this diagram. Okay, so we don't have to worry too much about that.

p4 01:55

But there was steel before 1856 [1856]. Anybody know where the steel came from? There were two primary sources of steel. One: meteorites from space that landed on the earth were actually a lot of iron-nickel alloys with fairly low carbon, and if someone found a meteorite they could hammer it into a sword. That's why steel swords were fairly rare. The other thing is you could take cast iron and you could beat it and fold it over and forge it just like kneading dough, almost, and keep burning the carbon out. And if you don't burn all the iron out at the same time, you'll end up with some steel. Lower carbon than 2 or 3% carbon or 4% carbon, and you'll end up here in the steel side.

p5 02:41

And there are three types of steel: low carbon, medium carbon, and high carbon, that we call them today. There's no firm dividing line, but typically low carbon is something less than about .25%, less than a quarter percent. Medium carbon is about .25 to .6, and high carbon is greater than .6. And you never go above about 1 or 1.1% carbon in steel. You actually can go higher if you look in this region, but you don't usually go much above 1%, which is right in here. You can get 2% in here, but there's only some tool steels and other things that have that much carbon.

p6 03:35

Together, this type of, somewhere in the low and medium, is often called in a generic form mild steel. Someone mentioned mild steel. Well, mild steel is just slang for mostly a low-carbon steel, but it could be pushing into the medium carbon steel. Basically mild steel is something that's easy to form, it's easy to weld, and we're going to learn that's because it's difficult to harden. It basically usually is in a particular crystal structure which we called ferrite.

p7 04:08

Someone else mentioned hot rolled versus cold rolled. And so sometimes you say, well, I have a piece of cold rolled steel, what does that mean? Well, it means it came from a particular mill that can take hot rolled band, they call it, which is just a great big roll of like quarter inch thick steel. Let me back up. Steel is made by casting, in the old days, like 20-inch thick ingots, and rolling them out. It's basically, they call breakdown rolling, and you forge it down to about four or five inches thick. And then you go through a hot mill, and a hot mill today might cost you a billion dollars today's terms. A whole steel mill today might cost you $15 billion. And that's why no one has built a steel mill anywhere in the world since 1960s. No company has built a new steel mill. There've always been countries that have built new steel mills. No company can afford the investment in their own steel mill.

p8 05:15

Okay, the last one was Bethlehem Steel in Burns Harbor, Indiana. Now it's part of ArcelorMittal, because Beth's bankrupt ever since I went to work with them. Worked for them, they went bankrupt. I guess I did it, I don't know. But anyway, Burns Harbor was the last company-built steel mill. All the others were basically built with government subsidies or whatever, because it's just too big an investment.

p9 05:43

We have the same types of things in the semiconductor industry. You know, Intel might build a $15 billion fab plant, but there's all kinds of politics and government subsidies that go with it. Boeing might build, might start a new aircraft, and it's a 15 or 20 billion proposition. Well, there's all kinds of subsidies that come with those things too.

p10 06:05

In any case, steel mills are fairly expensive propositions. A hot rolling mill is about a billion dollar facility, and you take these slabs, you put them in a furnace, you get them up to about 1100°C. So 1100 centigrade is up in this region. And you just put them through, 1100 centigrade, 1200 centigrade, the stuff rolls like butter. Now, you're using cold — the rolls, the steel rolls that are rolling this, are also cold, and they're rolling hot material. So you have to be careful about how you handle things, and you may water cool the rolls so they don't get too hot and things like that. But basically you can break it down to about a quarter of an inch thick, and that's hot rolled strip. You put it in a coil while it's still hot, let it cool, and you call it hot rolled band. Okay, B-A-N-D.

p11 07:02

You take the hot rolled band and you take it over to another mill, which might be a one and a half billion dollar proposition today, which is called a cold rolling mill. And now you're going to basically put it through at room temperature through these big massive rolls, and it'll be going through there at 60 miles an hour. And it'll be not just one set of rolls — great big rolls. There'll be about six or seven rolls lined up one after the other. So it comes in a quarter of an inch and it might come out at 25,000 or 30,000 — no, you don't get any case. I'll talk about case in a little bit. Case, you can get — well, actually, cold rolling should give you a nice uniform through-the-thickness hardness, in general. But you can do other things to get local hardness, surface hardening, and I'm going to talk about that so far as that goes.

p12 08:05

But that's another thing. I mean, you got to remember, I told you we know more about steel than any other material in the world, including silicon. That's because it's a huge industry and it's had a lot of people working on it so far as that goes. So that's some of the terminology. Anybody have any questions on that terminology?

p13 08:23

Student: [Question about hot roll versus cold roll for bar stock.]

p14 08:25

So when you say hot roll and cold roll, now if you're talking bar stock, I can have half inch bar stock like this stuff — it's got a magnet in between, what do you know? I can have something like this, half inch bar stock, that could be cold rolled, because the mill to squeeze that could do it cold even though it's a half an inch. It might have started out with something that was bar stock of an inch or inch and a half square — round or square — and a mill can have enough separating force to squeeze this cold down to this. But if you're talking big white plate 5 feet wide, the mill — we just don't have mills big enough to have the force necessary to squeeze that plate if it's more than a quarter of an inch thick. So hot rolled, if we're talking plate material, plate comes off the hot roll basically, sheet comes off the cold roll. And it's basically just a question of thickness. When you get to bar stock, you can be a little bit thicker in the cold rolled.

p15 09:25

Hot rolled comes out annealed, and so the strength is, you know, 200 megapascals, you know, 30, 35 KSI. Cold rolled, you can come out with different hardnesses, and we sell it in the anneal condition, we sell it in the half hard condition or the hard condition. You can get 100 KSI out of a low carbon steel in the cold roll condition, whereas you can only get about 35, one-third of that, in the hot roll condition. And it's a function of thickness coming out of the mill.

p16 09:58

Now, we can also transform the steel by quenching it and tempering and doing other things, which is what I've written down over here, are some of the other terms. Ferrite — how did we get the term ferrite? Well, there was a metallog— actually there was a petrographer. Anybody know what a petrographer is? Any geologist here? Anyway, a petrographer is someone who polishes rocks and looks at them in a microscope to look for the different minerals in the rock. For example, granite is composed of three different minerals: feldspar, silicon, a quartz — yeah, silica, quartz, feldspar, quartz, and something else. I can't remember the third, I'm not a geologist.

p17 10:43

Anyway, so Henry Sorby in England was a petrographer. He said, what if I do this with a piece of steel? And if you polish a piece of steel — you grind it smooth and polish it — you'll end up with a mirror, doesn't look like much of anything. Well, he had the bright idea to etch it with some acid, and when he did that, it sort of goes frosty when you look at it with your eye. Put in the microscope, and you can see grain structure, you can see the individual crystals. Being a petrographer, being a geologist, he said, well, it's an iron-based steel, and what do you call things that are iron? You use the Latin name of ferrite. And you put I-T-E in to make it a mineral name. So this was ferrite. So low carbon steel, the alphic form — the alpha form, which is from the phase diagram over here — is called ferrite, and it's unremarkable other than the grain size.

p18 11:47

Then later, people had ways to heat the steel up and do other things, and they learned about this face-center cubic phase at higher temperatures, and they named that austenite, again using the geology-type stuff, after a guy, a British metallurgist called Roberts-Austen.

p19 12:06

And then people had known for centuries you could heat the steel up into this FCC, quench it in oil, water — they didn't know about air quenching at the time, they didn't have the alloys — you could quench it in oil or water, or a nice Nubian slave. One of the things the people in the Mideast used to like to do is they'd heat the steel up into its, you know, thousand degrees centigrade, and they liked to quench it in a live slave. Because it would give virility to the steel. Didn't give much virility to the slave, but nonetheless, you can quench it in blood too if you want. Okay, we don't do it much anymore.

p20 12:51

Anyway, so something they ended up finally calling the hard phase martensite, after — I think he was Swedish, Martens was a metallurgist in the 1890s or so. And then bainite is a hard form of steel formed with a different crystal structure. And while martensite — if I were to take martensite, I could take a piece of chalk and snap it into two, and it's brittle. So is martensite in the as-quenched condition. Bainite in the as-quenched condition, you can bend it into a U, and it has almost the same strength as the martensite. It's because of a different type of transformation.

p21 13:34

Bainite was not discovered or understood until about 1930, and Edgar Bain was a metallurgist at US Steel Research Laboratories, which later were called Bain Laboratories. And bainite is named after Bain. You can quench in oil, water, or just let it cool in the air, which they call an air quench. And if you do that to martensite, it'll be glass brittle. Actually, it'll be about 10 times tougher than glass, but it's still pretty brittle. You hit it with a hammer and it'll shatter.

p22 14:06

In fact, I think Mike Tarkanian does that in the forge down there. He'll take a piece of steel and he'll heat it up and quench it and show — well, he'll show that before you quench it, it'll be nice and soft, and he can heat it up and he can bend it 90 degrees or 180 degrees. And then he quenches it in water and he hits it — and he makes sure nobody's looking that direction, everybody's got safety glasses on — he can shatter the bar. Because martensite in the untempered condition is extremely brittle. I would say glass brittle, but it's not really glass brittle, it's about 10 times tougher than glass. In fact, cast iron is about 10 times tougher than glass, even though we think of gray cast iron as a very brittle material, and it is. It's just not as brittle as glass. But in any case, so far as that goes.

p23 15:08

Student: [Question about cast iron pipes/pots.]

p24 15:10

Cast iron pipes, pots is gray cast iron. If I took a sledgehammer to a cast iron pot — put your safety glasses on, wear your shin guards and other things, because shrapnel can go flying. But if you want to break one of — in fact, if you've ever, well, you probably haven't seen it, but I've been there when they're digging up an old cast iron pipe in the street. They just get down there with sledgehammers and wham, and break it apart. Because it's too hard to cut with a saw. It's easier to cut steel than it is to cut cast iron with all the hard particles and impurities. And cast iron — good soft cast iron cuts like butter compared to steel. But the old dirty stuff with all the impurities has got hard particles and just dulls saw blades. They often use carbide saw blades to cut cast iron, believe it or not, for cast iron pipe. But big 36-inch diameter, you know, water mains, when they have a break or something, they just go in there with the sledgehammers and these guys beat it to death. But wear your goggles and stuff, 'cause when it breaks it will shatter. It won't shatter like glass 'cause it's tougher than glass, but it'll give off big brittle fractures so far as that goes.

p25 16:33

Okay, so there's quenched and tempered. What else do we have in here? We have anneal, which I can take any of these steels and I can heat them up to just above this little line right here into the austenitic region and hold them there, and then cool them down slowly. Don't quench them in oil or water, and I will end up with an anneal microstructure, and it will be nice and soft, about 30 to 35 KSI yield depending on the carbon content. It can be 60 to 90 KSI tensile so far as that goes.

p26 17:11

I can also normalize it. If I do that, I'd take it just above this line, heat it up, hold it there until it's uniform in temperature, and then I sort of forced-air-cool it depending on the size of it. And because I'm going from FCC to BCC, if I cool it a little bit quicker than just let it sit in the air over an hour or two hours or something, I can get a very fine grain size. It'll change from BCC to FCC — FCC to BCC — I'll get a fine grain size. And in most metals, fine grain means high strength, higher strength.

p27 17:51

And so let's talk about — let's tell a story, it's time to tell a story. Starting to doze off with all this technical stuff. So let's talk about bicycle frames. Good old steel bicycle frames. We're not talking high-end titanium bikes or composite bikes like all of you like to play with. Let's just talk about the good old, go to Walmart or Costco, steel frame bike. Be a mountain bike, could be a trike bike. Could be a tricycle or whatever. Well, it's not a trike bike for what I was going to do.

p28 18:31

4130 steel, okay, to give you an example. Now, 4130 steel is also used for things sometimes called aircraft tubing. 4130 — the 30 tells you I got .3 carbon plus or minus about .004 or so. It could be .26 to .34 carbon, 'cause they can't hit it perfectly at the steel mill every time. 40, 41 tells me something about the alloy content. In this case, it'll tell me something about the manganese that's in the steel. It'll tell me something about — this particular steel I think has a little chrome in it, like a third of a percent chrome. So this is the alloy designation family, and here is the carbon level. So I got two numbers there, 4130, I stick them together. This is the American Iron and Steel — American Iron Steel Institute designation. It's been around for 100 years. You can have 4140, you can have a 4135.

p29 19:45

4130 is sort of garden variety high strength steel. Tubing comes in three forms if you look at the spec: quenched and tempered, annealed, and normalized. Quenched and tempered, it might have a strength of 120 KSI yield, I'll say 100 to 120, I didn't look it up. Yield strength — not much higher tensile strength. Annealed, it might be 70 to — well, let's just say I'll just say it's 70 KSI. And normalized, it'll probably be 90 to 100.

p30 20:36

And so this is something that might be 3/4 of an inch in diameter, 1 inch diameter, might have a wall thickness of 1/16 of an inch, you know, think of a millimeter, 2 millimeters, something like that. You can make bicycles out of it. It's relatively easy to weld. Some people would call this a mild steel. It's not really a mild steel, it's an alloy steel. It's got some alloy content to give us some of this extra strength and allow you to quench it and temper it, because even in 2mm thickness, a carbon steel might not always get quenched well enough to be hardened all the way through. You need something to slow down the transformation, so — that is because the thing doesn't cool immediately when you put it in water. Takes a little time for the water to — you know, when you first put in the water, you get boiling heat transfer on the surface, and that's not very effective. It takes a little time, it takes seconds for this to occur, and I don't always have seconds.

p31 21:33

If I start looking at a steel transformation book — and I'm sure you all have these, I had this at home until I brought it in, little light reading in the evening — so here's a transformation curve for steel. Let's see, it's probably better that way I think. So here's the steel transformation curve, and it's time in seconds, log time in seconds, versus temperature, linear temperature. I'm going to take it up here above — what's that, 1200? I can't read it. Fine, 1,000 — yeah, this is above 1200 Fahrenheit. So I take it up to 1,300, 1,350 Fahrenheit. This is a — doesn't even tell me the type of steel, but anyway. I start cooling it. What the metallurgist would do is they would quench it into a bath, a very thin strip, and hold it at some temperature. The bath might be a bath of hot lead at some temperature, and they measure the transformation. They really couldn't get things less than about 2 seconds because the thing won't quench that quickly. So that's sort of dashed line. And this is the beginning of transformation, 50% line is this very barely visible line here, and the end of the transformation is here. You get this characteristic curve behavior.

p32 23:09

And if you look at this temperature of transformation, this is the beginning of the transformation from face-center cubic to body-center cubic, there's the 50% point, and here's the end point, 100% transformation to body-center cubic. This curve is called a sigmoidal curve. If you're a metallurgist, you can study this for a whole semester, just that one curve, and nucleation and growth kinetics. Ooh, how exciting! I had to do it once. But if you look at lots of different types of steels, you see that for a 1060 or 1080 steel, these things are transforming in less than one or two seconds. If I add some alloy content to these things, and actually if I go to — this is a 1035 steel, and it's pushed over, the C-curve is pushed over to longer times, but I'm still dealing with times of less than 10 seconds for the transformation.

p33 24:13

If I get clever, I can start adding alloy elements. If I start adding — let's see if the light does better — if I'm adding molybdenum, this is zero molybdenum, this is — I think I showed you this the other day — 0.15, 0.38, .5 molybdenum, and you can see the nose of the curve is getting pushed over from something that's about 2 seconds all the way over to 20 seconds. I can slow down the reaction by a factor of 10 by adding half a percent molybdenum. So that's what I've done with 4130. I can't remember — I think it's chrome that they added to the 4130 to slow down the transformation, so I can get all these wonderful phases that I would like, as a metallurgist.

p34 25:06

So I can buy the tubing in a number of different forms. So I'll tell you a story of that — that relates sort of to welding and hydrogen and brittleness and stuff. So there was this kid in eastern Pennsylvania and he was 21 years old, and they liked to do jumps with bicycles. So if you've been watching the Olympics and you see the people doing the — what, slopes, slope — you know, these people are idiots. Going up 300 feet in the air, doing, you know, four flips, you know, in the air. There was actually an article in the paper, one of these guys come down on their head and they're in trouble. They're dead, or worse.

p35 25:48

Well, this kid did the same, you know, he was doing flips on a bike, and he could ride the bike and put one of the pedals alongside of the rail. So if you see the people in these things, and they take their snowboard or whatever and they slide down these rails up at the top and stuff — well, he could do this with a bicycle. And he could flip the bike and do, you know, a 360° turn in the air. Except one time he was doing it and the handlebars came loose, he landed on his head, and now he's a paraplegic.

p36 26:22

So I get the handlebars. 4130 steel. Turns out it was pretty sure it was normalized — wasn't special strength bicycle steels, you know, they're all about the same strength. This was a high-end bicycle. This was a jumping bike. And he had paid a lot of money for this special handlebar and stuff, but it was just a regular old tube that slips in. You know, handlebar is going this way, this the tube here, and it fractured. It was a ductile fracture, except it had some fatigue early on. And it was nice chrome plated, of course, right, to make it look nice. And the problem was, the final fracture was ductile, it wasn't brittle. But the beginning fracture was brittle. And what happened — someone electroplated it. When you electroplate the steel, you introduce hydrogen. The steel's embrittled. If that thing gets shipped to him and he, or whoever did it, they didn't bake out the hydrogen, and the steel's embrittled, and it starts getting stressed. Within a few days or a few weeks, you can start — you have a brittle material, and it can start a crack. And it started a crack, and it grew by fatigue until it was like 60% of the way around. And then on one jump, the thing just broke. But the final failure was nice and ductile, the steel bent over and everything. Well, unfortunately the first part wasn't.

p37 27:55

So what happened here — there's nothing wrong with the steel originally from the steel mill, but there was something from the people in this little mom-and-pop shop in California who electroplated it. They didn't know that you had to bake out the chromium plate to get the hydrogen out. They just sent it to a plating shop, didn't tell them to bake it. Plating shop didn't say, oh, we should bake this. They should have, but they did it, sold it, and they gave him — paraplegic.

p38 28:31

Student: [Question about the bake-out spec.]

p39 28:32

Yeah, the spec, the ASM spec says you must go from the electroplating bath to the oven within 1 to 4 hours depending on the carbon content of the steel. Higher carbon steels you got to get it in within one hour. Lower carbon steels can tolerate more hydrogen, you might take four hours.

p40 28:55

Environ— nope, just an air oven. You're going to heat — 375 degrees Fahrenheit typically. And they do it for either one hour in the oven, four hours in the oven, or 23 hours in the oven. Anybody know why they do 23 hours in the oven? Because you put it in at one time one day, you take it out an hour earlier the next day, and you put another batch in. It gives you an hour to change batches. That's why they say 23. But that's what the spec says, 23 hours. Say, where'd they come up with that? Well, if you keep on doing these every day and you made it 24 hours, eventually you get into quitting time. And people would have to stay over, right? So you want to keep using your furnace, so they make it 24 hours. Anyway, 23.

p41 29:46

Student: [Question about annealing versus normalizing.]

p42 29:48

Yes. Annealing basically cools slower. Actually annealing, as I remember, you heat it up to a temperature above 900°C and cool it, whereas normalization, you heat it up just above this line. In normalization, you actually force-air cool it. You're getting better, faster cooling than annealing. Sometimes you actually anneal and just cool it in the oven, in the furnace. It depends on the thickness of the part. But basically annealing, you're trying to get a what we call a dead soft material. Normalized, you're trying to get a fine grain size. The purpose of the heat treatment is different, and you adjust your heating temperature and your cooling time in normalizing to get fine grain size. And in annealing, you don't worry as much about the grain size, you're looking for softness. So far as that goes, and so they have different names.

p43 30:45

Okay, so there's some bicycle tubing, and we use that same type of tubing to build small aircraft. And we have for about 80 years. That same 4130 tubing. If you go look at the aircraft that they were building, that they put canvas around in the 1930s to keep the wind out and stuff, or you go out to some small little place even today, there are people — you can buy kits of 4130 tubing and build your own aircraft. And as long as you don't take any passengers, you don't have to get special permission from the FAA. The Federal Aviation Administration will allow you to kill yourself or your family, but no one else. If you're going to build it for other people to use, you have to follow all kinds of construction rules. But if you're building it for yourself, it's okay to kill yourself.

p44 31:44

Which, actually, I'll tell you another story. So some people would like to own an F-15, you know, go Mach 2 or something like that, and they're fairly rich. But the government won't sell you an F-15 without all kinds of export controls. But some movie stars and others have enough money, they could buy the engine. And so there was this one company — I don't know where they incorporated, but they were doing their tests in the Nevada desert, and it was called Pereg— Green Falcon. And I think they were selling these aircraft for like $10 million or something. And basically you just buy the engine from Pratt and Whitney or whoever, and it was the same engine basically, as it was the commercial version. I don't know if I want to say it's commercial version, 'cause this one would go Mach 2. But it was a military engine, but it was sort of a commercialized version of the military engine that's in the F-15.

p45 32:44

And they basically would take some 4130 tubing or some aluminum tubing, and they put a seat in front of it, maybe just a little bit above where the air comes in. And then they put a skin around it and some controls and stuff, and they would sell it to you for, I can't remember, was 10 or $15 million. But you had to come to Reno, Nevada, and spend — you had to assemble half of it yourself. Not the engine, but the airframe. And so there were some very famous movie stars who had bought this thing, and they were scheduled to come to this facility and they were going to have some mechanics there and welders and stuff, and the movie stars would be able to buy their own Peregrine Falcon so they could go Mach 2 and get the thrill. Because what's money, you know.

p46 33:32

And so the first Peregrine Falcon, it blew up over the Nevada desert at 40,000 feet, and the test pilot was killed. And the second one — I got a call at 6:00 a.m. one morning and a guy said, uh, Tom, I want you to look at a Peregrine Falcon that crashed. This was the owner. He was now the test pilot. And I said, sure, when do you want to bring it by? He says, I'm down here at 77 Mass Ave right now. I said, okay, I'll meet you in the lab. So I came over here to — right across from my office was upstairs, the fourth floor back then, this 20 years ago — and he brings in part of the fuselage, the tail structure. And he tells me the story that this thing had crashed over the Nevada desert at 40,000 feet while they're doing the test flight. And they found wreckage strewn over 50 miles of the desert, 'cause you're that high going that fast. And he said he just brought in a part that he could bring in by hand, it's aluminum so it's light. And he said, I want you to tell me why it crashed. I said, excuse me? I mean, how do I know that the bad part is here? He said, well, just look at it. So I looked at it, I said, I don't see anything except overload.

p47 34:57

So he started telling me this theory that they thought maybe, at those speeds, you get into flutter. The wings start vibrating at supersonic speeds, and they thought maybe he got into flutter. And they had these little lead weights on the ends of the wings. He brought me the tail wing, not the main wings, and they thought maybe one of those lead weights had come off and they had gotten into flutter because it didn't have the dampening weight. I said, well, why didn't you bring me that? He said, well, I can.

p48 35:31

So about 6 weeks later they shipped me the end of the wing — both wings — and one of them, they had just glued about a one-pound lead weight onto a little steel arm. Wasn't much bigger than that. And on one of them was still glued on, the other one was a very poor adhesive bond, and the lead weight wasn't there. I said, good theory. You know, why they hadn't put a screw in to hold the lead weight — if you want to adhesively bond it afterwards, but all you had to do is put a screw in it. But hey. So the FAA will let you kill yourself if you have enough money, and you can go Mach 2. And all those people who had put in — I think there was a $5 million down payment or something, that's how they were getting this stuff built — but all those people lost their down payment. But it was just petty cash for them anyway. Okay, so enough stories for today.

p49 36:28

Let's go into some of the other things on steels. We did talk about — or there's some questions about a composition of steels, and I said steel is an alloy of iron and carbon. Oops. Iron and carbon. We talked about, you need manganese, and they learned you need manganese to tie up the sulfur, because you always have some sulfur and phosphorus impurity. And what I did is I brought the manganese phase diagram for all of you. Phase diagram.